Originally posted by Tzeentch._
The opposite, actually. I've gotten about 20 friend invites from topping the leaderboard in Dawn of War 2.Whenever there's some shit-talking in the chat about being a girl, it's usually retracted by the end of the game.
Ppl still play DoW2?? Thot that game died long ago.
I still prefer the original DoW, tho. Wish they'd make a sequel tht was more DoW 1 than 2.
Originally posted by -Pr-
This is messed up: http://flygirlgamers.com/game-on-ladies/
Originally posted by BackFire
While there may not be as many female protagonists in gaming as many would like, I think there have been great strides in female characters in gaming in general. Particularly when it comes to supporting characters.Games like Walking Dead, Mass Effect, Half Life 2 and the recently released Last of Us all have exceptional female characters with depth and personality. And while these characters I'm referring aren't the 'lead' character, they are arguably more important. Look not further than Half Life 2. While you control Gorden Freeman, and he's technically a protagonist, he is barely a character. You are not meant to project any emotional attachment to him. That designation belongs to Alyx Vance, she's meant to be the character the player connects with. The same goes for The Walking Dead with Clementine and The Last of Us with Ellie. You don't control these characters, but they're just as important, if not more so, than the characters you control from a story telling perspective. They are the catalysts for emotional investment in the story.
I have just had my first experience as a "girl gamer". Playing Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. I played with Blax, who was also masquerading as a young lady.
It wasn't bad, actually, people seemed to think I was a cool young lady. It likely helps that I consistently was the tippity top of the scoreboards for all but one game (Where I was like fourth or some shit), out of something like six or seven games. The only person who really doubted my abilities despite apparently being a girl was in the first game when I joined, he said "When did girls grow dicks and decide they could play videogames?" That promptly stopped when it became painfully apparent that I was the best player on the server. Though, I do wonder if, assuming I was kinda meh or bad, if he would have stopped. If not, I can see why a less skilled female would be angry at being mocked while at the same time being punched in the face.
There was also some sexual harassment, but only from two guys who were trolling in general. I was talkative on the chat, but just ignored when people said shit like asking if they could add me on Steam and send me nudes. They were obviously trolls, and seemed to know eachother, and indeed when one was kicked for deliberate team killing, the other abandoned the game.
All in all, my first experience as a girl while online gaming was okay.
Also, since I am a true dudebro neckbeard, I created a persona for my female self. A hard-working young southern woman who has spent most of her life on a farm, and is tall, strong, and with a healthy farmer's tan.
I am his sassy, streetwise inner-city black lesbian friend, I guess.
I suck balls at Chivalry, so I can't comment too much on his experience in that, but I find that it's consistent with my gameplay experiences in Dawn of War 2, where I'm regularly champion on the post-game leaderboard.
The most hostility I get is pre-game, in the lobby- where the other players have a tendency to groan at the notion of a having a girl on the team. By the time the game's over I'm treated pretty normally, though.
Originally posted by SmasandianThat could indeed be the case, I can't comment. Never really console gamed online.
I find online PC gaming have a lot less sexist bullshit.Well, at least in TF2 where a fair number of them are girl gamers.
TF2 does seem super accepting. Everyone seemed perfectly fine with one of the players being an eight year old girl in a server I was on once, lol.
I did a second session of Chivalry as a girl.
This one exposed me a bit more to what females may face in gaming.
As per usual, when I joined I began dominating the scoreboard, and this guy takes notice. He tries to grief me, and refers to me as a c***, and talks about how he wants to spear my c*** mouth, and continued to do this for the duration of my game session. He was a general troll and douche, so maybe it was to be expected. I could personally ignore that and deliver witty comebacks adequately.
But what DID grate on my nerves was this other guy, who felt the need to white knight me. It was truly preposterous. He would apologize for killing me (In Free For All), and try to "protect" me, following me around and shit and attacking those that might try to harm me (Stealing kills in the process!). The assertion that, as a "girl gamer", I needed protection, despite dominating the scores, was absurd! So that was pretty shitty.
Most of the guys in the game were all right though, they just wanted to play videogames, and some were suitably impressed by my haxness. One guy said: "<My username>, you're like a magician in fighting, lol" after I entered combat with something like eight people, and came out on top. Though, admittedly, I suspect some comments were just guys being general sycophantic at the prospect of this girl gamer.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I still play Retribution, from time to time.
There much a community still playing it?
DOW is about the only RTS that I can actually play even with its rather old graphics.
Wish they'd hurry up and release that XCom sequel already.
Anyway, on topic, one of the best counterstrike players I've ever met was a girl, she was also freakin brutal with King of Fighters 95 and just about any game she gets her hands on. Last I heard (haven't hung out in over 10 years) she was a senior playtester for EA Sports or somesuch. I've known quite a few female gamers (tho none as skilled as that one) thru my years (heck my gf atm is an avid diablo 2 fan and still plays it and refuses to even consider playing D3). My last 3 gfs all played games (counterstrike, counterstrike, dawn of war respectively lol) at one time or another. So female gamers are actually quite common. At least in my experience. None of them seem to complain about "sexism" in gaming, tho. I don't think they consider games to be such a integral and definitive part of their lives that little things such as how a character is written would bother them in the least. After all, one plays games to relax and forget about one's day and socialize with friends. Gaming isn't really the most efficient medium to propagate the feminist movement, In other words, while I definitely can sympathize with the "create truly female characters in games" proposition, I just can't help but feel that it's a bit petty and irrelevant. Certainly not worth the 100k plus funding it got.
My two cents.
Just my two cents.
I rarely play online, but if I do, I can usually find a couple of people for the gauntlet.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I did a second session of Chivalry as a girl.This one exposed me a bit more to what females may face in gaming.
As per usual, when I joined I began dominating the scoreboard, and this guy takes notice. He tries to grief me, and refers to me as a c***, and talks about how he wants to spear my c*** mouth, and continued to do this for the duration of my game session. He was a general troll and douche, so maybe it was to be expected. I could personally ignore that and deliver witty comebacks adequately.
But what DID grate on my nerves was this other guy, who felt the need to white knight me. It was truly preposterous. He would apologize for killing me (In Free For All), and try to "protect" me, following me around and shit and attacking those that might try to harm me (Stealing kills in the process!). The assertion that, as a "girl gamer", I needed protection, despite dominating the scores, was absurd! So that was pretty shitty.
Most of the guys in the game were all right though, they just wanted to play videogames, and some were suitably impressed by my haxness. One guy said: "<My username>, you're like a magician in fighting, lol" after I entered combat with something like eight people, and came out on top. Though, admittedly, I suspect some comments were just guys being general sycophantic at the prospect of this girl gamer.
I'll admit that I use the C word a lot, though I am irish, and that word has less meaning to us than it does to those across the pond.
That said, I'd rarely, if ever, use it to a woman, at least consciously.
Originally posted by NemeBro
That could indeed be the case, I can't comment. Never really console gamed online.TF2 does seem super accepting. Everyone seemed perfectly fine with one of the players being an eight year old girl in a server I was on once, lol.
I think it's because it caters towards so many different types of gamers. You could hate shooters but love playing as a engi. Or just want to snipe or heal people. Or lay traps as a demo..
It could be the case that TF2 only plays well if people act as a team while other shooters are not team oriented at all.
When I play BF3, nobody gives a shit about what team wins or loses. In TF2, it's a huge part of it. Your expected to sacriface for your team to win.
This could mean that people don't really give a shit if it's a girl, or a child playing.