Zod/Faora Vs Superman/Thor

Started by Zack Fair9 pages

he is starting to lowball, yeah.

Originally posted by Silent Master
There is plenty of evidence that Thor was holding back in those fights, stop trying to lowball characters that you don't like.

What? Saying that Thor was holding back is lying and thus trolling. There is NO indication that he was holding back. His face was grimacing for almost all his attacks. He even strained momentarily against IM when they matched strength.

When Thor missed the hammer strike (IM dodged) he fell and lost his balance. That means he was using most if not all of his strength to hit IM.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
he is starting to lowball, yeah.

It's all he can do, seeing as it is rather obvious that Thor was holding back in those fights...with the possible exception of his charged hammer attack on Cap.

Originally posted by h1a8
Come on now. Give me a break with this nonsense. It is clear as day the leviathans were more vulnerable on their exposed underbelly. Iron Man's missile destroyed one when it hit that part.

The lightning lasted much longer than it did when it hit Iron Man. The bolts were thicker as well. Thor doesn't need help to direct his lightning. He was destroying multiple aliens simultaneously without that building. You are clearly going against the common sense of the movie. This reaching is borderline trolling now.

We see massive amounts of lightning going into the building, far more than ever has been shown in all movies. All of that stored charged was shot back out towards the wormhole to kill multiple aliens and leviathans.

Did you even watch this movie? The leviathans had armor in their underbellies. Hulk punched the leviathan which caused some of it's scale armor to fall off, and into one of those gaps did IM shoot his missile. Please watch the scene again before you make any more nonsense posts.

Here's a link. Watch it and see for yourself

YouTube video

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's all he can do, seeing as it is rather obvious that Thor was holding back in those fights...with the possible exception of his charged hammer attack on Cap.

Pretty sure he's the only person I've seen who claims Thor wasn't holding back against IM, or that Thor isn't more powerful than IM. And if you disagree with him, you're trolling.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The blast wasn't stronger, it just lasted longer.

Except that it fired Leviathans and looked far more powerful than any other lightning blasts he used...

Originally posted by ares834
Except that it fired Leviathans and looked far more powerful than any other lightning blasts he used...

Buildings do not amp power, how many times does this need to be explained to you?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Buildings do not amp power, how many times does this need to be explained to you?

At least 12 more times

Originally posted by Silent Master
Buildings do not amp power, how many times does this need to be explained to you?

Hammers don't shoot lightning.

Rob eloquently explained it to you in the other thread. That was no normal blast.

Originally posted by ares834
Hammers don't shoot lightning.

Rob eloquently explained it to you in the other thread. That was no normal blast.

Magic hammers do, are you claiming that buildings in the Marvel universe are magical?

Straw man.

Originally posted by ares834
Straw man.

There have been multiple movies made in the Avengersverse, find me one statement about buildings amping energy.

I will if you provide me a statement saying that Thor can use lightning as powerful as he displayed on the building at any time.

lol. I share sm's opinion, but thee opposition is convincing me

Originally posted by ares834
I will if you provide me a statement saying that Thor can use lightning as powerful as he displayed on the building at any time.

You're claiming that the building amped the lightning's power level, that means the burden is on you.

Originally posted by ares834
Hammers don't shoot lightning.

Rob eloquently explained it to you in the other thread. That was no normal blast.

No it wasn't a normal blast. Thor took his time to charge up that blast, making it stronger than his normal one. That doesn't mean that he needed the building though. Just that he took longer to build up the lightning but the power still came from him and mjolnir. You're the one claiming that the tower helped charge the lightning, which is contradictory to any known fact about steel and lightning, so burden of proof is on you. Our proof is science: Steel and buildings don't amp lightning or electricity. What's your proof? If all you can say is that "Thor has never done lightning that big" then the most immediate explanation there is "Thor had never needed to make lightning like that before, but he did now so he made one".

Hammers don't shoot lightning, but Mjolnir the magical hammer does. Are you saying that buildings in the Marvelverse are magical as well?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're claiming that the building amped the lightning's power level, that means the burden is on you.

Actually, you made a claim first here saying it "wasn't stronger". I simply provided evidence to the contrary. As such, the burden of proof is on you.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No it wasn't a normal blast. Thor took his time to charge up that blast, making it stronger than his normal one. That doesn't mean that he needed the building though. Just that he took longer to build up the lightning but the power still came from him and mjolnir. You're the one claiming that the tower helped charge the lightning, which is contradictory to any known fact about steel and lightning, so burden of proof is on you. Our proof is science: Steel and buildings don't amp lightning or electricity. What's your proof? If all you can say is that "Thor has never done lightning that big" then the most immediate explanation there is "Thor had never needed to make lightning like that before, but he did now so he made one".

It wasn't merely a longer charge. The lightning Thor summoned down was significantly thicker than any bolt he has been shown summoning before.

Perhaps it didn't serve as a battery but as a lightning rod to help him summon more. I don't really know. The fact is, Thor has never displayed such power and intensity before and the fact that he is awkwardly situated on top of a metallic tower which he makes surge with electricity doesn't seem to be a coincidence.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hammers don't shoot lightning, but Mjolnir the magical hammer does. Are you saying that buildings in the Marvelverse are magical as well?

Straw man.

Originally posted by ares834
Actually, you made a claim first here saying it "wasn't stronger". I simply provided evidence to the contrary. As such, the burden of proof is on you.

Actually, h1a8 claimed the building amped the blast back on page 4, that puts the burden on those claiming the building amped the lightning's power level and right now that's you.

We have provided evidence such as the lightning being significantly thicker then we have ever seen Thor produce before.