Originally posted by SevenShackles
Maybe air walker or red shift but Terrax? How do you see that playing out? Or is it just Terrax low showings create a nice enough gap for Ultimate Thor to get a good majority?
Well I think Ult. Thor is stronger for one, and his elemental power likely trumps Terrax's. The thing about Terrax's supposed low showings is that he has so many of them, and that means that they aren't really low showings but average ones.
Originally posted by asdf83
I hate it when writers do that. Just the height of stupidity.
Originally posted by Stoic
Well I think Ult. Thor is stronger for one, and his elemental power likely trumps Terrax's. The thing about Terrax's supposed low showings is that he has so many of them, and that means that they aren't really low showings but average ones.
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Originally posted by ODG
They just pulled an "I've always been holding back" in the latest Ultimates #26. So who knows anymore:
Not to mention the Infinity Gauntlet made Hulk bigger and stronger (Smarter too apparently).
Also, Hulk's never fought a full power Ultimate Thor. When he came to Midgard he was reborn as a mortal man who was empowered by technology which is a poor substitute for his real powers I guess based on his sulking.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not to mention the Infinity Gauntlet made Hulk bigger and stronger (Smarter too apparently).Also, Hulk's never fought a full power Ultimate Thor. When he came to Midgard he was reborn as a mortal man who was empowered by technology which is a poor substitute for his real powers I guess based on his sulking.
Didn't hulk get smart after banner went off and got into meditation or something? That while ultimate hulk VS wolverine comic had him explaining something like that and the hulk was talking and such.
True about the mortal thing but do you remember when he got back his godly power? He stopped wearing the tech torso belt and using the generator that doubled as his hammer. He was able to empower the girl who became valkyrie so he has his godly powers in whatever measure but I'm iffy on when exactly he got them back.
Who are the strongest characters in either mainstream marvel or DC he can put down for majority? This thread has gotten me actually curious of such things.
Originally posted by carver9
Wherever you put Supreme Hyperion tier wise, put Ultimate Thor a couple of tiers below that. Supreme Hype destroyed UT...outright humiliated him and then used his own hammer on him (yes, bypassed the enchantment).
Originally posted by carver9
Wherever you put Supreme Hyperion tier wise, put Ultimate Thor a couple of tiers below that. Supreme Hype destroyed UT...outright humiliated him and then used his own hammer on him (yes, bypassed the enchantment).
Supreme Hyperion temporarily got over the edge over Ultimate Thor and knocked him down for maybe like two seconds after he got pissed. Impressive I guess (Especially lifting Mjolnir but it doesn't have a Worthy enchantment in UM, just heavy IIRC), but Ultimate Thor stop holding back and owned Hyperion right after.
Why do you only remember the first half of the fight? Do you have like amnesia? He also easily dismissed Power Girl or whatever who was practically as strong as Hyperion.
So All out Thor > All out Hyperion > Holding back Thor.
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Originally posted by SevenShackles
Didn't hulk get smart after banner went off and got into meditation or something? That while ultimate hulk VS wolverine comic had him explaining something like that and the hulk was talking and such.True about the mortal thing but do you remember when he got back his godly power? He stopped wearing the tech torso belt and using the generator that doubled as his hammer. He was able to empower the girl who became valkyrie so he has his godly powers in whatever measure but I'm iffy on when exactly he got them back.
Who are the strongest characters in either mainstream marvel or DC he can put down for majority? This thread has gotten me actually curious of such things.
I don't remember anything from that mini besides Wolverine getting ripped in half. This Hulk is pretty articulate and was using the Infinity Gauntlet, I definitely don't remember him being that intelligent at any point.
Right now he is mortal, but for some reason he is able to use his powers without the tech on him which is weird.
Originally posted by carver9
Do you have a scan or something that states his hammer isn't enchanted because Thor was pretty shocked at Hyperion wielding it.
Why would I need to post a scan of them saying it isn't enchanted? You'd have to prove that it is enchanted, we don't assume every version of Mjolnir has a worthiness enchantment to it. As far as I know it's never been mentioned and the mechanical hammer/axe is a power generator created by the British Super-soldier program.
The regular looking Mjolnir is the actual Asgardian weapon according to the recent continuity. Although it's never been said that this is enchanted as well.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Supreme Hyperion temporarily got over the edge over Ultimate Thor and knocked him down for maybe like two seconds after he got pissed. Impressive I guess (Especially lifting Mjolnir but it doesn't have a Worthy enchantment in UM, just heavy IIRC), but Ultimate Thor stop holding back and owned Hyperion right after.Why do you only remember the first half of the fight? Do you have like amnesia? He also easily dismissed Power Girl or whatever who was practically as strong as Hyperion.
So All out Thor > All out Hyperion > Holding back Thor.
Lol...that wasn't a temporarily ko...he was knocked out and it wasn't a fight. I posted this for you before, I can repost it if you want.
Also, Hyperion was at half power when they fought the second time. A plant was absorbing his power.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that wasn't a temporarily ko...he was knocked out and it wasn't a fight. I posted this for you before, I can repost it if you want.Also, Hyperion was at half power when they fought the second time. A plant was absorbing his power.
What are you talking about?
Hyperion knocks Thor down and flies away. Thor immediately gets up and blasts him out of the sky when we go back to them.
Yes, he was blasted down into that plant goo that drains his powers (Prolonged exposure weakens him but he doesn't go down to half in mere moments, not sure where you got that from. It's not kryptonite). But we saw Thor easily dismiss Power Woman or whatever who's pretty much his equal from what I remember.
So like I said, when Thor goes all out, he's just as strong.
Edit: Hyperion did get his power cut in half when the new Squadron Supreme showed up but at that point Thor was already kicking the crap out of him for a while IIRC.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't remember anything from that mini besides Wolverine getting ripped in half. This Hulk is pretty articulate and was using the Infinity Gauntlet, I definitely don't remember him being that intelligent at any point.Right now he is mortal, but for some reason he is able to use his powers without the tech on him which is weird.
only two pics I could find of hulk being articulate. I'll admit I didn't look all that hard.
Perun (sp?) the Russian knockoff seemed to get the handed down role of 'tech based thor' and Thor got his 616 looking hammer which was actually forged by Ulik by his fathers command so perhaps his powers have returned with the use of the hammer.. Only real explanation I can piece together.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wasn't thor being powered by tech a reality warp by loki which was reversed later on and he had his godly powers since then?
According to Thor's recent series (Hickman basically trying to streamline the conflicting information), when Asgard burned during Ragnarok, all Gods besides Loki were reborn as men including Thor. Since he awoke during the modern era, he has been powerless until he received the technology. I guess at some point (Post Loki revelation is the only possible answer) he gained Godhood (Don't remember what level or whatever) but now he's mortal again.
