@Rage...
You wouldn't consider this a flash KO.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thor/15.jpg
@Rage...
You wouldn't consider this a flash KO.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thor/15.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on those scans Hyperion looked beyond Thor. He stopped a hammer strike with one hand from behind and was choking Thor like a ***** with one hand while thor was struggling to get free.
Yup, when Hyperion cut loose, he was definitely stronger then Thor by a decent margin.
But Thor cut loose too. 🙂
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't. For all you know, I could be lying out of my ass. It would be better for you to read the scans for yourself. I wasn't going to report you, just too lazy to do any kind of work.
The only reason I said what I said is...I'm tired of debating this topic because we are seeing the fight in an entirely different perspective.
Originally posted by carver9
@Rage...You wouldn't consider this a flash KO.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thor/15.jpg
I would consider it a definite knock out tbh even if we didn't see anything else based on the ownage.
But the moment we look back at them, Thor's already blasting Hyperion out of the sky in mid-air at pretty much the same distance:
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff175/RespectThor/Fights/Vs%20Hyperion/Vs%20Hyperion%203/1.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Based on those scans Hyperion looked beyond Thor. He stopped a hammer strike with one hand from behind and was choking Thor like a ***** with one hand while thor was struggling to get free.
Kinda where the debate comes from.. One side says the 2nd fight plays out differently because Thor has measure of his opponent and is 'serious' while the other believes it's the plant that was supposed to be Hyperions Kryptonite or a mix of the both. 😄
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Kinda where the debate comes from.. One side says the 2nd fight plays out differently because Thor has measure of his opponent and is 'serious' while the other believes it's the plant that was supposed to be Hyperions Kryptonite or a mix of the both. 😄
Yup, the spores make it less clear cut but it should be noted that these things aren't Kryptonite. Hyperion was evacuating the planet for a while before he noticed his weakness to these things IIRC.
And Thor owned Zarda in much the same fashion Hyperion owned Thor who is practically his equal.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup, the spores make it less clear cut but it should be noted that these things aren't Kryptonite. Hyperion was evacuating the planet for a while before he noticed his weakness to these things IIRC.And Thor owned Zarda in much the same fashion Hyperion owned Thor who is practically his equal.
True. Throwing the word kryptonite around might be a tad misleading but wasn't it created for the purpose of weakening him/killing? I haven't read the comic in a long time.
You're welcome.
Originally posted by SevenShackles
True. Throwing the word kryptonite around might be a tad misleading but wasn't it created for the purpose of weakening him/killing? I haven't read the comic in a long time.
It was, by that evil scientist. It's his Kryptonite yes, but what I meant was, is that it doesn't instantly cripple him like Kryptonite does to Superman (Under some portrayals anyways).
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup, when Hyperion cut loose, he was definitely stronger then Thor by a decent margin.But Thor cut loose too. 🙂
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Kinda where the debate comes from.. One side says the 2nd fight plays out differently because Thor has measure of his opponent and is 'serious' while the other believes it's the plant that was supposed to be Hyperions Kryptonite or a mix of the both. 😄
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lightning bro. Thor wasn't just using his strength and if what I learned about spores and they were weakening him, we can count that out for thor.I think its clear cut based on those scans that hype was beyond thor and he was weakened by spores later on.
Part of his power set.
He casually owned Zarda too though.
Check out the Ultimate Power series if you have the chance, I don't feel like uploading it but the spores don't instantly weaken him, up to you if you feel like disregarding it (Not sure why you would).
All out Hyperion > Normal Thor. All out Thor is apparently a different beast.
IIRC...Hyperion was weakened to the point that Thing was able to match him AND temporarily ko him with a punch.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/4.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/5.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/6.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
IIRC...Hyperion was weakened to the point that Thing was able to match him AND temporarily ko him with a punch.http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/1.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/2.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/3.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/4.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/5.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/RespectHyperion/Battles/Vs%20Thing/6.jpg
What are you talking about? That's on the Ultimate Marvel Earth right after their teleportation IIRC. And not only is Ultimate Thing a lot higher up the scale than his 616 version, but their biology was out of whack momentarily with that Universe.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you talking about? That's on the Ultimate Marvel Earth right after their teleportation IIRC. And not only is Ultimate Thing a lot higher up the scale than his 616 version, but their biology was out of whack momentarily with that Universe.
I understand that but wasn't Hyperion weakened during that state as well?
Originally posted by carver9
I understand that but wasn't Hyperion weakened during that state as well?
What? The teleportation trip momentarily weakened him and the rest of the Squadron but anything beyond that I don't recall.
If you're arguing he was weakened by spores, that makes absolutely no sense, this isn't his Earth but the Ultimate's Earth.
And weakened or not, if Hyperion is stronger then Ultimate Ben, it's not by much.
Originally posted by carver9
Wasn't Ultimate Namor the strongest/most powerful being on Ult U? They even granted him teleportation IIRC.
Well, no to the former. I don't remember him being terribly beyond his 616 incarnation, but he certainly wasn't > a lot of characters. On the latter, unsure. I followed a bunch of Ultimate titles for quite a while, but not at all in the last couple years. It may be a power I'm unaware of.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just noticed Zarda knocking Thing for a loop. She's extremely strong, wouldn't be surprised if I saw her beat up Hyperion. Can't believe Thor no sold her like that.
👆
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Part of his power set.He casually owned Zarda too though.
Check out the Ultimate Power series if you have the chance, I don't feel like uploading it but the spores don't instantly weaken him, up to you if you feel like disregarding it (Not sure why you would).
All out Hyperion > Normal Thor. All out Thor is apparently a different beast.
I was mainly talking about strength.
Meh, females. Explains itself.
I would. Is it any good? I think how they are described, he was weakened there when Thor was unleashing on him.
Yeah Hype looked beyond thor. Not if hype was weakened there.
