Originally posted by Golgo13
BTW, does anyone have the scans of the Siviaa fight?
sivaa was a multiversal threat as far as im concerned, if not more.
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first of all, shivaa is a threat to all existence:
http://i.imgur.com/10cEVsz.jpg
now the big question is what does 'all existence' mean according to context.
orion explains that all mortal universes (the multiverse) exists in bubbles in new genesis:
http://i.imgur.com/3sdBlPN.jpg
earlier in the issue, the new earth universe is referred to as a mortal universe
http://i.imgur.com/WvVIMzf.jpg
^which indeed indicates that the whole multiverse exists in bubbles in new genesis.
now shivaa attacks, and is beginning to destroy existence, and you will notice how insignificant entire planets are compared to even superman and orion, why is that? orion himself explains, as i said earlier that the whole multiverse exists in bubbles in new genesis, and since now that superman is in new genesis (and the motherbox altered his size as he traveled to new genesis) he himself can dwarf entire worlds
http://i.imgur.com/T2y3i6g.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5JKVHyl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7vf6lqH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WRKPIOh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9mRPz6k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0dSU6E6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3sdBlPN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iWcIqs5.jpg
though he didn't treat orion and superman as merely annoyances, however he was defeated by his own power, when orion blasted him through the hole (which he created to destory all existence) sending him right to the source wall.
http://i.imgur.com/X8Od4mD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tRxFH7Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KpWM44p.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wrVIhdn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5ij7YiB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JAuS9Ui.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/O8ST6p6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TN5TEma.jpg
Thanks for the scans, been a while since I've read that story.
My conclusion? If the Destroyer faces S'ivaa in original size then it's a spite thread as any being from New Genesis simply operated on a higher level of existence in that story (This is not always the case).
If it's a neutral battle ground or the Destroyer enters through a Boomtube or teleports there etc. then the Destroyer would have the upper hand in combat. While we see S'ivaa hurt and affected or what have you, we're unclear as to what it would take to actually put him down. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt but not to the point of no limit fallacy.