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This is the greatest single Gem feat I've ever seen.

It's Rune using the Time Gem. He froze the entire "Time-Stream."

The "Time-Stream" is the Dimension from where All of Time can be observed.
So Rune froze "Time" across all TimelineS! (with a thought)

LT stated that the reason he was untouched by the Time Gem's affect
was cause he "Transcends the realm of Space & Time, All the opposing RealitieS"

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16108288_TG1.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16108289_TG2.jpg]

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16108292_TG5.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16108294_TG6.jpg]

The only other existence untouched was Warlock.
Who as we all know is beyond the influence of Space-Time.

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Yet, at times arguments still persist that suggests classic IG was universal. lol!

That's One Gem folks, stopping Everything!

Originally posted by Brockalizer
I am unaware of the Soul Gem ever working like that against an abstract level character.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you believe the soul suck won't work then prove it.

you'd have to prove power level is the determining factor here. You don't have to but again your burden.

It failed against an opponent that was more powerful than Warlock, that by itself leads to think its related to powerlevel -that and the fact that, in general, that kind of plot powers don't just work the same way on higher ups-.

You seem to be going several lengths to dismiss the feat, you won't aknowledge it at all because you know its important and it makes your semantics moot. Discuss the feat, give it a place in the debate, I'll wait for you here.

Originally posted by Bentley
It failed against an opponent that was more powerful than Warlock, that by itself leads to think its related to powerlevel -that and the fact that, in general, that kind of plot powers don't just work the same way on higher ups-.

You seem to be going several lengths to dismiss the feat, you won't aknowledge it at all because you know its important and it makes your semantics moot. Discuss the feat, give it a place in the debate, I'll wait for you here.

Lets discuss the specifics by all means. In no way, shape, or form do I ever run from a debate.

Hey Bent, if you're referring to Galactus it wasn't about "power."
Galactus doesn't have a conventional "soul." (or one at all I think)
Which is strange cause even Eternity has a "spirit."

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey Bent, if you're referring to Galactus it wasn't about "power."
Galactus doesn't have a conventional "soul."

Exactly.

Originally posted by SquallX
You would be wrong.

It took getting hit point blank by the Creation Blast, the blast destroyed the Infinite Pre-Crisis Era and created the the Finite Post Crisis Era. Even then AM was still alive and well, and ready for round 2.

Exactly a creation blast isn't a DESTROYING blast. Those are worlds apart. One is designed to destroy... one is designed to create. Not even close to the same.. We've seen Reed at the center of a creation blast.. sis neg... Galactus... etc etc They didn't tank a destroying blast.. they were present to help in a CREATION blast.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What occurrence are you referring to ? Galactus ?

Lets discuss the specifics by all means. In no way, shape, or form do I ever run from a debate.

The Star Thief example.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Hey Bent, if you're referring to Galactus it wasn't about "power."
Galactus doesn't have a conventional "soul." (or one at all I think)
Which is strange cause even Eternity has a "spirit."

If I might add: is there any source for this other than the Thanos mini? Because the mini seems to imply Warlock does see a sort of Soul in Galactus which he cannot affect because its like Eternitys.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Exactly a creation blast isn't a DESTROYING blast. Those are worlds apart. One is designed to destroy... one is designed to create. Not even close to the same.. We've seen Reed at the center of a creation blast.. sis neg... Galactus... etc etc They didn't tank a destroying blast.. they were present to help in a CREATION blast.

Are you dense?

To create something new in an occupied space, you either builds on the old foundation, or destroy the old foundation.

That's what Creation Blast was, it completely destroyed everything in the Pre-Crisis Era, and rebuild and created the Finite Post Crisis Era.

AM at his peak took that blast head on, and was asking for more.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yet, at times arguments still persist that suggests classic IG was universal. lol!

That's One Gem folks, stopping Everything!

Originally posted by Bentley
The Star Thief example.

If I might add: is there any source for this other than the Thanos mini? Because the mini seems to imply Warlock does see a sort of Soul in Galactus which he cannot affect because its like Eternitys.

Originally posted by ODG

Yes, the single Time Gem can stop time across a universe.
Why would that universal feat suggest anything otherwise?

The Marvel Time-stream is the Multiversal push of "Time" towards Entropy.

This is why All TimelineS are subject to the Time-stream! (proof below)

(there's plenty more of that ... from a variety of stories, just let me know)

Timelines are entire separate Universes/Eternity/Infinity
like Guardians of the Galaxy's Reality 691,
which is the 31st Century, a possible Future of an infinite number.

616 is the universe/timeline occupying the present Time.

hm, not sure i agree with that thought. infinity--a universal being--represents all time in our universe. that means she represents times that haven't happened yet. the future is not determined, which means she would represent a near infinite versions of the time stream of a single universe. iow--infinity/eternity of the gotg universe could very well and logically be our very own eternity/infinity, just in the future. unless you have proof that eternity in gotg time is an actual different eternity from our own of course, or proof that infinity literally represents only a single path of time which would make the entire universe/multiverse predetermined. pretty sure i could find proof to say otherwise, if need be.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I never heard of a "universal" Time-stream. (got scans?)

The [b]Marvel Time-stream is the Multiversal push of "Time" towards Entropy.

This is why All TimelineS are subject to the Time-stream! (proof below)

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109484/Timestream1.jpg.html

(there's plenty more of that ... from a variety of stories, just let me know)

Timelines are entire separate Universes/Eternity/Infinity
like Guardians of the Galaxy's Reality 691,
which is the 31st Century, a possible Future of an infinite number.

616 is the universe/timeline occupying the present Time. [/B]

Otherwise, don't waste my time.

I have Three scans that states Rune froze the "Time-stream" itself:

I also presented what the "Time-stream" is in Marvel:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109680_Timestream1.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109681_Timestream2.jpg]

I have more examples if needed.

So, ... you must have that scenario that states Rune only froze 616? (at-least one scan right?)

Or would that be a waste of your time?

Returning with some explanation would be a waste of my time.

Originally posted by leonidas

infinity/eternity of the gotg universe could very
well and logically be our very own eternity/infinity, just in the future.

unless you have proof that eternity in gotg time is an actual different
eternity from our own of course

Anyway good friend, I'll reply to this part of your post cause it's a
fair request, though I'm surprised you didn't know GOTG Eternity is Reality-691 (alternate universe)
That's a "Core-Continuum Designation" number,
assigned to differentiate Entire Alternate Universes as you know.

Official Handbook:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109634_GOTG_691.jpg]

On Panel:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109632_Future_other_Uni3.jpg]

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We shouldn't be surprised my friends, it's always been this way in Marvel comics.

You enter a "Past" era, and that's an Alternate Universe: (Year 1942)

"We could be lost in another Alternate Dimension"

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You enter a "Future" era, and that's an Alternate Universe: (Year 2020)

"Alternate World ... Future"

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When you cross Time and Space ... you're jumping Dimensions as in Alternate Realities:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109637_Space_Alternate_Realities.jpg]

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have [b]Three scans that states Rune froze the "Time-stream" itself:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109677/TG1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109678/TG5.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109679/TG6.jpg.html

I also presented what the "Time-stream" is in Marvel:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109680/Timestream1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16109681/Timestream2.jpg.html

I have more examples if needed.[/b]

When you have proof that Rune actually froze the past and the future or alternate universe timelines from the actual comic itself, or a comic that is even remotely connected to those events, let us know. Oh... that's right. You don't. Literally the best you can come up with, is an irrelevant panel from Excalibur. That speaks volumes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
So, ... you must have that scenario that states Rune only froze 616? (at-least one scan right?)

Or would that be a waste of your time?

Your meaningless crusade to make the Infinity Gems out to be more than universal in scope is a waste of everyone's time. Especially these days. But I am already acutely aware of how you go about making your arguments, so deconstructing them wouldn't take much time at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was an earlier example of an inexperienced Warlock which isn't the same as a seasoned Warlock.

So you admit dismissing it openly? Well, that was easy.

So is there a time gem in the ultimate universe? If so, is there a time gem in every single universe? So there's how many time gems?

If there's multiples wouldn't that prove its universal?

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have [b]Three scans that states Rune froze the "Time-stream" itself:

I also presented what the "Time-stream" is in Marvel:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109680_Timestream1.jpg]
[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109681_Timestream2.jpg]

I have more examples if needed.

So, ... you must have that scenario that states Rune only froze 616? (at-least one scan right?)

Or would that be a waste of your time?

Returning with some explanation would be a waste of my time.

I posted on panel proof that the Marvel Time-stream is a Multiversal flow.

Anyway good friend, I'll reply to this part of your post cause it's a
fair request, though I'm surprised you didn't know GOTG Eternity is Reality-691 (alternate universe)
That's a "Core-Continuum Designation" number,
assigned to differentiate Entire Alternate Universes as you know.

Official Handbook:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109634_GOTG_691.jpg]

On Panel:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109632_Future_other_Uni3.jpg]

-------------------------------------------------------

We shouldn't be surprised my friends, it's always been this way in Marvel comics.

You enter a "Past" era, and that's an Alternate Universe: (Year 1942)

"We could be lost in another Alternate Dimension"

-------------------------------------------------------

You enter a "Future" era, and that's an Alternate Universe: (Year 2020)

"Alternate World ... Future"

-------------------------------------------------------

When you cross Time and Space ... you're jumping Dimensions as in Alternate Realities:

[img=http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16109637_Space_Alternate_Realities.jpg] [/B]

nah, i know about the alternate designation. the problem i have with this idea is 2-fold: (a) it limits and seems to ignore infinity's function in the universe/mulitverse. (b) when quasar was in the the DoM he saw versions of eternity from the past (and iirc) from the future as well. and in that same issue, the DoM was stated by the manifester to exist for only this universe/multiverse/plane or some such. were eternity in the past as you say, quasar shouldn't have been able to see him, as he'd be in another alternate universe's DoM. unless DoM supplies m-bodies for the entire greater multiverse, which seems to be against how it was described by the manifester. i'll look into it more later.