Originally posted by tkitna
I'm not saying he is unhittable. My point was that he's fast enough that he shouldnt be letting people punch him in the face while he stands there talking. Definitely not somebody who was fighting at their best.But, but, but you just said it was clear that he wasnt using his full power. Whats it going to be?
Not surprising after the way the Sentry went about it.
A weakened Wolverine has still hit the Hulk before. No big deal. Was just an example.
Looking at the scans through my PC here at work. For some reason, I cant enlarge photobucket images. No options.
He didn't let anyone punch him in the face. It was a combo bro.
Sentry during that fight was the "only" one that said anything about "going all out".
Sentry went about it the right way. He knew punching Hulk wouldn't have done a thing, so he resorted to blasting him and it still failed. He even circled the guy in energy. He tried blitzing but got busted open. Whats missing?
When did Hulk fight a weakened Wolverine?
Originally posted by psycho gundamNo, I'm not. Hulk needs anger to increase his powers. The rage he had for this fight along with his powers burned out.
that's the last thing i'd think you'd say to me lol.you're ignoring the history of their powers and their relationship, the build up of the event, the next pages in that same comic, and the history beyond that comic where hulk was exploding with power again.
In the next pages a big reveal riled him up. This proves my case. Even in WW Hulk he was burned out by the Sentry who fought the Hulk's fight.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't let anyone punch him in the face. It was a combo bro.
So the Sentry was powerless here when he was asking for more? Ok bro.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/892/aawwh05015.jpg
Sentry during that fight was the "only" one that said anything about "going all out".
But yet he wasnt was he? As history has shown, when Bob gets pushed to the brink, the eyes start to glow and all hell breaks loose. For some reason that didnt happen here. I wonder why that is? I'll also except your concession that he wasnt using all of his capabilities too.. At least we both agree on that.
Sentry went about it the right way. He knew punching Hulk wouldn't have done a thing, so he resorted to blasting him and it still failed. He even circled the guy in energy. He tried blitzing but got busted open. Whats missing?
If he knew punching the Hulk wasnt having any effect and he resorted to nothing more then blasting him with energy, why didnt he do that from a distance? Why not use it as a range attack? Well, because he fought like an idiot. Hence my point all along. Are we done here now?
When did Hulk fight a weakened Wolverine?
Wolverine has always been at his best throughout a fight with the Hulk? Really?
Originally posted by tkitna
So the Sentry was powerless here when he was asking for more? Ok bro.http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/892/aawwh05015.jpg
But yet he wasnt was he? As history has shown, when Bob gets pushed to the brink, the eyes start to glow and all hell breaks loose. For some reason that didnt happen here. I wonder why that is? I'll also except your concession that he wasnt using all of his capabilities too.. At least we both agree on that.
If he knew punching the Hulk wasnt having any effect and he resorted to nothing more then blasting him with energy, why didnt he do that from a distance? Why not use it as a range attack? Well, because he fought like an idiot. Hence my point all along. Are we done here now?
Wolverine has always been at his best throughout a fight with the Hulk? Really?
Sentry couldn't do anything about Hulk connecting with his punch. Hulk caught Sentry during mid blitz and continued attacking.
What abilities didn't Sentry use? His Void persona doesn't count. I also don't get what you are trying to apply. Sentry outright stated he does not need to hold back against Hulk. Him not Voiding out does not change this.
He did attack Hulk from a distance with energy blast but Hulk grabbed on to the Energy Sentry was producing and used it to aid him maneuvering in the air. Do you honestly believe fighting Hulk from a distance would have changed anything? Especially when we have a Sentry pouring every ounce of energy he had onto the Hulk and it still did not give Hulk pause. He fought the only way he knew possible of winning and that was in a fashion of blasting the hell out of Hulk. Sentry loss bro...I know it hurts but WWH proved his superiority.
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry couldn't do anything about Hulk connecting with his punch. Hulk caught Sentry during mid blitz and continued attacking.
OMG Carver. Sentry stood there and was asking for more. Its right there in the scan. He said 'GOOD' (punch) 'JUST' (punch) 'ONCE' (punch) 'MORE' (punch). He wasnt trying to defend himself. You would think a character with the Sentry's powerset would have time to move if he had time to talk.
What abilities didn't Sentry use? His Void persona doesn't count. I also don't get what you are trying to apply. Sentry outright stated he does not need to hold back against Hulk. Him not Voiding out does not change this.
Why doesnt his Void persona count? If the character was in fact unleashing everything and not holding back like you claim, then it would only be consistent with the character if he did revert to the Void persona. Again, poorly written just for the sake of stroking the Hulk. Everybody realizes that except for you apparently.
As bad as the Sentry fight was, the Zom Strange issue was craptacular.
He did attack Hulk from a distance with energy blast but Hulk grabbed on to the Energy Sentry was producing and used it to aid him maneuvering in the air.
He was holding onto the energy? Lol. Ok. Bob channeled the energy into a vortex and the Hulk rode it up. When Bob saw him, he welcomed him and had to have suspended him there with telepathy. How in the hell does somebody grasp onto energy? Somebody at some point stated that the Hulk was holding onto Bob's arm while in the air (in which he does have a hold of Bob's arm in the panel), but that came a few panels afterwards.
Do you honestly believe fighting Hulk from a distance would have changed anything?
Lol. I'm pretty confident that Bob wouldnt have been pounded on like he was. I mean, i'm not Mr. Obvious, but how else would you perceive it? Sorry, but you just baffled me with that one.
Especially when we have a Sentry pouring every ounce of energy he had onto the Hulk and it still did not give Hulk pause. He fought the only way he knew possible of winning and that was in a fashion of blasting the hell out of Hulk. Sentry loss bro...I know it hurts but WWH proved his superiority.
Sorry bro, he didnt fight to win. He just thought he probably would.
http://m118.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/bigbran1/wwh019.jpg.html
Lol...its right there in the scan...Hulk is literally grabbing Sentry energy and used it to carry himself up to Sentry. It's as clear as day. The rest of your post, j will respond to it later...its late where I am at.
Originally posted by carver9
http://m118.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/bigbran1/wwh019.jpg.htmlLol...its right there in the scan...Hulk is literally grabbing Sentry energy and used it to carry himself up to Sentry. It's as clear as day. The rest of your post, j will respond to it later...its late where I am at.
Good lord. It does appear he rose straight up by grabbing two rods of energy although the energy was going around in circles like a tornado. The next panel has no explanation. It seems the Sentry has all but forgotten about the Hulk at that point and then Bruce appears as if he can fly. The natural direction of the energy must not apply to the Hulk.
Great writing right there. 😆
Here's the next panel if anybody wants to see this train wreck of a story.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7157/aawwh05021.jpg
If everyone combined their points into one story it would be correct.
Quan has a point when he says that the Hulk was burned out of rage or a reason to continue the combat, but comes up short when or if he claims that the Hulk was out of power. We clearly see that he was not once he nearly destroys the Earth a few panels later. Sentry was the only one that was fully spent at the end of that battle.
The Hulk also shows that he was plenty fast when he tagged the Sentry at the beginning of their conflict when Sentry tried to blitz him, and flew face first into his fist. Seems to me that the Hulk exhibited super speed, or super reaction speeds, which shows that he indeed can hit speedsters of Teth's caliber.
So what do we have here?
1. WW Hulk is stronger than Teth at his highest power display during WW Hulk.
2. WW Hulk will heal through anything that Teth can throw at him.
3. WW Hulk is able to amp far above Teth in an instant as shown in that story when he simply takes a step.
4. WW Hulk was clearly able to tag a super strong speedster of Teth's caliber, and turn it into a brawl, and win.
5. WW Hulk was holding back the entire time so that he would not destroy the planet. Now what would happen if he were able to fully let go due to no innocent lives being at stake? How would Teth do against this type of power? We all know how Teth fights. We all know that he would fight the Hulk's fight by getting up in his face.
Teth would lose every time in character. This means how he would fight the Hulk, not how we would fight the Hulk.
