Originally posted by quanchi112
If the amp changes his mindset away from the character like the black lantern Rezz. That's entirely different.
Here's what the writer had to say so decide for yourself:
"I did. Tom Brevoort and I went back and forth between Ares and Sentry for months, and we had settled on Ares. The more I got into in what I could do with Ares, the more I realized, Ares is super-cool, and Ares as war — this was before the idea of turning them all into deaths, when I was still just considering the Four Horsemen — made a lot of sense, obviously, but it didn't interest me as much. It just didn't.
Then I realized I've got Thor on my team, who was responsible for killing Sentry, and that there's a real animosity there. Then I got into the aspect of, "What happens to a resurrected Sentry, who doesn't have The Void in his head anymore?" Who is still this mentally ill Superman who's got powers of a thousand exploding suns, but instead of The Void taking up space in his head, it's a Death persona from a Celestial, from an Apocalypse?
The twins are breaking all of the rules that have been set up, basically, because the way that these things work is — the Death Seed, basically you're choosing your successor. You create a Death, and then if you die, then the person you made as your Death becomes the next Apocalypse. If that doesn't work, then it goes to your actual kin. It's a hierarchy of the way these things work. So what they've done is to go around the cosmos, and collect Life and Death seeds from various areas of the universe, and various time periods, to cheat, and to create four Deaths.
In Sentry now, you've got someone who is basically a human being with the power of a thousand exploding suns, who is mentally ill, and instead of having this villainous Void in his head, now he's got a Death persona, which is screaming for him to move forward evolution — which is a very confusing thing for a guy who's not a mutant. Maybe he comes up with a different interpretation of his mission… when I thought of that, well, it just excited me way more. There's so much more potential there for this guy who's dealing with real and sad mental illness, and to put him in this situation, and to put him against Thor in the way that I have, it became way too cool not to do it. "
http://www.newsarama.com/17851-rick-remender-revives-sentry-daken-in-uncanny-avengers.html
The Sentry with the Void influence being replaced with the Death Seed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusJust as I suspected a different mindset altogether. The Void and the Sentry are the same character and this is completely changing it up.
Here's what the writer had to say so decide for yourself:
"I did. Tom Brevoort and I went back and forth between Ares and Sentry for months, and we had settled on Ares. The more I got into in what I could do with Ares, the more I realized, Ares is super-cool, and Ares as war — this was before the idea of turning them all into deaths, when I was still just considering the Four Horsemen — made a lot of sense, obviously, but it didn't interest me as much. It just didn't.Then I realized I've got Thor on my team, who was responsible for killing Sentry, and that there's a real animosity there. Then I got into the aspect of, "What happens to a resurrected Sentry, who doesn't have The Void in his head anymore?" Who is still this mentally ill Superman who's got powers of a thousand exploding suns, but instead of The Void taking up space in his head, it's a Death persona from a Celestial, from an Apocalypse?
The twins are breaking all of the rules that have been set up, basically, because the way that these things work is — the Death Seed, basically you're choosing your successor. You create a Death, and then if you die, then the person you made as your Death becomes the next Apocalypse. If that doesn't work, then it goes to your actual kin. It's a hierarchy of the way these things work. So what they've done is to go around the cosmos, and collect Life and Death seeds from various areas of the universe, and various time periods, to cheat, and to create four Deaths.
In Sentry now, you've got someone who is basically a human being with the power of a thousand exploding suns, who is mentally ill, and instead of having this villainous Void in his head, now he's got a Death persona, which is screaming for him to move forward evolution — which is a very confusing thing for a guy who's not a mutant. Maybe he comes up with a different interpretation of his mission… when I thought of that, well, it just excited me way more. There's so much more potential there for this guy who's dealing with real and sad mental illness, and to put him in this situation, and to put him against Thor in the way that I have, it became way too cool not to do it.
"http://www.newsarama.com/17851-rick-remender-revives-sentry-daken-in-uncanny-avengers.html
The Sentry with the Void influence being replaced with the Death Seed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just as I suspected a different mindset altogether. The Void and the Sentry are the same character and this is completely changing it up.
Replacing the Void persona with the Death persona makes him a completely different character?
Sure, if you think that's the case but you seemed to be implying it would make him weaker or something.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHis mindset is different which is what these stories usually do. It's just as I suspected. Different character IMO. Traditional Sentry has the Void.
Replacing the Void persona with the Death persona makes him a completely different character?Sure, if you think that's the case but you seemed to be implying it would make him weaker or something.
We've already seen how the Void compares. This is entirely different.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't really see why you have a problem with Sentry fighting the way he did.That's about as well as he's ever fought.
This is why I have the problem. That was as well as he has ever fought? You have got to be sh!tting me. The fight against Genis was probably his highlight fighting wise. At least they were throwing down like men instead of one of them allowing the other to beat on him while not doing anything to defend himself. If the Hulk and Sentry threw down like that and the Sentry lost, I would have no issues what so ever. The fact that Pak wrote the fight in such a ridiculous manner bothers me.
The fact that the Sentry supposedly released more energy then ever before doesnt equate to him fighting at his highest level. Why cant people differentiate between the two around here is mind boggling.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here's what the writer had to say so decide for yourself:
"I did. Tom Brevoort and I went back and forth between Ares and Sentry for months, and we had settled on Ares. The more I got into in what I could do with Ares, the more I realized, Ares is super-cool, and Ares as war — this was before the idea of turning them all into deaths, when I was still just considering the Four Horsemen — made a lot of sense, obviously, but it didn't interest me as much. It just didn't.Then I realized I've got Thor on my team, who was responsible for killing Sentry, and that there's a real animosity there. Then I got into the aspect of, "What happens to a resurrected Sentry, who doesn't have The Void in his head anymore?" Who is still this mentally ill Superman who's got powers of a thousand exploding suns, but instead of The Void taking up space in his head, it's a Death persona from a Celestial, from an Apocalypse?
The twins are breaking all of the rules that have been set up, basically, because the way that these things work is — the Death Seed, basically you're choosing your successor. You create a Death, and then if you die, then the person you made as your Death becomes the next Apocalypse. If that doesn't work, then it goes to your actual kin. It's a hierarchy of the way these things work. So what they've done is to go around the cosmos, and collect Life and Death seeds from various areas of the universe, and various time periods, to cheat, and to create four Deaths.
In Sentry now, you've got someone who is basically a human being with the power of a thousand exploding suns, who is mentally ill, and instead of having this villainous Void in his head, now he's got a Death persona, which is screaming for him to move forward evolution — which is a very confusing thing for a guy who's not a mutant. Maybe he comes up with a different interpretation of his mission… when I thought of that, well, it just excited me way more. There's so much more potential there for this guy who's dealing with real and sad mental illness, and to put him in this situation, and to put him against Thor in the way that I have, it became way too cool not to do it.
"http://www.newsarama.com/17851-rick-remender-revives-sentry-daken-in-uncanny-avengers.html
The Sentry with the Void influence being replaced with the Death Seed.
Thats basically telling me that the Sentry is handicapped now. Like I said, nothing good for the Sentry can come out of this.
Originally posted by tkitna
OMG Carver. Sentry stood there and was asking for more. Its right there in the scan. He said 'GOOD' (punch) 'JUST' (punch) 'ONCE' (punch) 'MORE' (punch). He wasnt trying to defend himself. You would think a character with the Sentry's powerset would have time to move if he had time to talk.Why doesnt his Void persona count? If the character was in fact unleashing everything and not holding back like you claim, then it would only be consistent with the character if he did revert to the Void persona. Again, poorly written just for the sake of stroking the Hulk. Everybody realizes that except for you apparently.
As bad as the Sentry fight was, the Zom Strange issue was craptacular.
He was holding onto the energy? Lol. Ok. Bob channeled the energy into a vortex and the Hulk rode it up. When Bob saw him, he welcomed him and had to have suspended him there with telepathy. How in the hell does somebody grasp onto energy? Somebody at some point stated that the Hulk was holding onto Bob's arm while in the air (in which he does have a hold of Bob's arm in the panel), but that came a few panels afterwards.
Lol. I'm pretty confident that Bob wouldnt have been pounded on like he was. I mean, i'm not Mr. Obvious, but how else would you perceive it? Sorry, but you just baffled me with that one.
Sorry bro, he didnt fight to win. He just thought he probably would.
Bran, this post that I am about to throw at this guy should bring back memories (me post stomping you). Don't report me.
Sentry blitzed into a fist full of rage. There was nothing shown on panel where Sentry could have countered Hulk pounding his face in. Hell, when he tried to prevent Hulk from punching him in the face, he still failed. Hulk combo to comboed him and would have continued if Sentry didn't blast Hulk off of him.
I agree, Void is a part of him but a DIFFERENT part of him. Hell, its so different that Sentry actually fought Void and threw him in the sun. They are one of the same BUT with a different mentality AND powerset. SENTRY went all out again a holding back Hulk. This has nothing to do with the Void. LOL...nothing was wrong with the Zom fight.
Again, Bob did not allow Hulk to pound on him.
He did fight to win and he lost.
Originally posted by carver9Ouch. I might not remember you ever "post stomping" me, but it must have been a good one if this is any indication.
Bran, this post that I am about to throw at this guy should bring back memories (me post stomping you). Don't report me.Sentry blitzed into a fist full of rage. There was nothing shown on panel where Sentry could have countered Hulk pounding his face in. Hell, when he tried to prevent Hulk from punching him in the face, he still failed. Hulk combo to comboed him and would have continued if Sentry didn't blast Hulk off of him.
I agree, Void is a part of him but a DIFFERENT part of him. Hell, its so different that Sentry actually fought Void and threw him in the sun. They are one of the same BUT with a different mentality AND powerset. SENTRY went all out again a holding back Hulk. This has nothing to do with the Void. LOL...nothing was wrong with the Zom fight.
Again, Bob did not allow Hulk to pound on him.
He did fight to win and he lost.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI liked the Sentrys portrayal in dark avengers a lot. I am not saying this won't be good when I do get around to reading it but its just one of those different mindset things like in blackest night
You'd think people who actually like Sentry would like the fact that a competent writer is bringing him back (at least for a time) and is giving him an absurd amp to boost.
Originally posted by carver9
Sentry blitzed into a fist full of rage. There was nothing shown on panel where Sentry could have countered Hulk pounding his face in. Hell, when he tried to prevent Hulk from punching him in the face, he still failed. Hulk combo to comboed him and would have continued if Sentry didn't blast Hulk off of him.
Lol. The Sentry couldnt have put an arm up or dodged, but yet he was asking for more? Do you remember the times when the Sentry was smiling as the Hulk was punching him? What do you make of that? Seems kind of purposeful doesnt it?
I agree, Void is a part of him but a DIFFERENT part of him. Hell, its so different that Sentry actually fought Void and threw him in the sun. They are one of the same BUT with a different mentality AND powerset. SENTRY went all out again a holding back Hulk. This has nothing to do with the Void.
And what has the history of the character shown us up to the point of his fight with the Hulk? He is constantly fighting to keep the Void suppressed, but when he lets go, the eyes light up or the Void himself even appears. He supposedly let himself go against the Hulk with nothing to lose but yet no sign of the Voids presence anywhere. Any explanation for that? Did Pak explain it at some point? I didnt think so. The Hulk didnt get everything the Sentry had to offer as you are forcing yourself to believe.
LOL...nothing was wrong with the Zom fight.
Of course.
Again, Bob did not allow Hulk to pound on him.He did fight to win and he lost.
No he didnt. He used him as a device, but believe what you want.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You'd think people who actually like Sentry would like the fact that a competent writer is bringing him back (at least for a time) and is giving him an absurd amp to boost.
And what positive aspect can come out of it for Sentry fans? I'm a fan and i'm really not looking forward to him getting killed again in an issue or two and have all the haters given even more ammo to fuel the fire.
They are only bringing him back to crap on him again. Just leave him dead if thats the case.