Originally posted by ScreamPasteNo, I am not.
Yes, you are indeed contradicting yourself, lol.He was sucked through the mirror.
He has magic resistance. It's your claim they can overcome it, so prove it.
He was bfr'd.
You claimed he can protect himself from bfr. You can't say he has magical resistance to said tactic without proving it all the while I can prove he can be bfr'd in the same breath.
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Your original claim was that that fused shadows do no physical damage. You've also claimed killing someone requires no physical effect for AK. Now your claiming 'well he died, OF COURSE there was a physical effect!"
By being sucked through a mirror before he could use his newfound powers.
Prove they can overcome his magic resistance or I don't have to do shit. haermm
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThey can after they have killed you. Need to kill first.
Your original claim was that that fused shadows do no physical damage. You've also claimed killing someone requires no physical effect for AK. Now your claiming 'well he died, OF COURSE there was a physical effect!"By being sucked through a mirror before he could use his newfound powers.
Prove they can overcome his magic resistance or I don't have to do shit. haermm
Ak does have a physical effect since you die.
Prove he can resist it. You just keep claiming he can resist without any proof. You are a horrible debater and just repeat baseless claims.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWe don't know if he portaled away.
Funny since they blow up the castle without harming Ganondorf.And it also sends you flying. Glad you've changed your tune.
Magic resistance sure is handy against magic.
No, it kills you then you physically die. My tune has never changed.
Prove he can resist being bfr'd. If you can't he gets bfr'd like against the sages.
We know, because we see, that Ganon was struck,
it's obvious, we see it, how bad do your eyes suck?
It's surprising how bad you are at keeping your shit straight,
is this why you always give up when things start to get late?
They have no way to overcome the triforce of power,
prove they do so or stop wasting hour after hour.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWe see him struck but don't see anything else.
We know, because we see, that Ganon was struck,
it's obvious, we see it, how bad do your eyes suck?It's surprising how bad you are at keeping your shit straight,
is this why you always give up when things start to get late?They have no way to overcome the triforce of power,
prove they do so or stop wasting hour after hour.
I go to bed. I am on here early while you sleep all day.
Twilight mirror bfr'd Dorf just as Faes bfr him. 😂
We watch Ganon take a blow to the face,
and the castle explode from another place.
Cut insinuations about my schedule of sleep.
I'll tell you again, you don't know me.
I've been up earlier than you and on less rest,
came back to KMC at night to crush you, pest.
The mirror is a door, which Ganon was sucked through,
you can't prove the fae can do that to him, can you?
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWe do not see what happens next.
We watch Ganon take a blow to the face,
and the castle explode from another place.Cut insinuations about my schedule of sleep.
I'll tell you again, you don't know me.
I've been up earlier than you and on less rest,
came back to KMC at night to crush you, pest.The mirror is a door, which Ganon was sucked through,
you can't prove the fae can do that to him, can you?
The mirror bfr'd him. One blast can do so. They don't even need to push him through a door. Bfring beats him. Shame.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't know the weights of everything here. I don't think so especially when we see the relative ease in which Russell accomplishes his feat.
Even eyeballing this, Dangoro and Blizzeta are both larger than cars. Given the material they are made of, they would also be much heavier. The ease has little to do with it, as the feat is much weaker.
They are beings of energy. It's plain to see. If you think they are physical beings Thats your problem.
Actually, it's on you to prove that Sages are intangible. We see one of them touched by physical means, that makes them physical. Unless, that is, you want to argue that Ganondorf can make someone's soul explode. In which case Ganondorf soul explodes everyone in True Blood.
That was a ride and it isn't meant to kill those who ride it. Toon physics. It just doesn't make sense but in their world no one can be hurt by the cannons.
So True Blood has no counter to toon physics. That still means all of Hyrule beats them.
We factor how he is portrayed by what can harm him along with cutscenes.
Cutscenes are the canon, yes. And cutscenes show Link having generally high durability.
I don't think that attacked bustled the castle. We simply don't know. We see a sword stabbing does more damage to his person than a castle which we never see come down on him.🙂
Did you forget that the Master Sword is durability piercing, or are you just ignoring that one? Ganondorf's pretty consistently not harmed by non holy things, and can recover from those anyway.
No, as Voldemort's magic is different so it is comparing apples to oranges.
"No, as Ganondorf's magic is different so it is comparing apples to oranges." If Voldemort's magic is sufficiently different from True Blood's, so is Ganondorf's. Really, there's nothing separating Voldemort and Ganondorf here.
Harry had nothing to do with it. It was his mother which saved him.
Still less threatening than the Master Sword, but this is off topic.
Mirror bfrd him it didn't transform his being. He can be bfr'd just not transformed by Twili magic since he is helping Zant.
Why would him helping Zant make him immune to Twilight when he is not even immune to his own power? That makes no sense,
Zelda needed to be unconscious to achieve it. Marnie isn't unconscious and already has a spirit inside her. 🙂
Marnie's been controlled. As I recall from your "Death is controllable" argument, that's all it takes. So Ganondorf possesses her easily. Or we can just have Midna forcibly remove the spirit from Marnie.
No, he isn't. He was not immune to the Ms or the Mirror either. He can't possess anyone unless they are in unconscious and due to those circumstances.
He's immune to the Fused Shadow's effect, and that's enough to resist anything True Blood has. He can make twilight portals to get wherever he wants.
BFR will not work.
Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see what happens next.The mirror bfr'd him. One blast can do so. They don't even need to push him through a door. Bfring beats him. Shame.
Originally posted by The ScenarioNah. They aren't made of what we know and can weigh anyways so it is useless to speculate. The ease is everything. If someone can effortlessly palm 200 lbs. and someone can bench 1,000 pounds with all their strength what is more impressive ?
Even eyeballing this, Dangoro and Blizzeta are both larger than cars. Given the material they are made of, they would also be much heavier. The ease has little to do with it, as the feat is much weaker.Actually, it's on you to prove that Sages are intangible. We see one of them touched by physical means, that makes them physical. Unless, that is, you want to argue that Ganondorf can make someone's soul explode. In which case Ganondorf soul explodes everyone in True Blood.
So True Blood has no counter to toon physics. That still means all of Hyrule beats them.
Cutscenes are the canon, yes. And cutscenes show Link having generally high durability.
Did you forget that the Master Sword is durability piercing, or are you just ignoring that one? Ganondorf's pretty consistently not harmed by non holy things, and can recover from those anyway.
"No, as Ganondorf's magic is different so it is comparing apples to oranges." If Voldemort's magic is sufficiently different from True Blood's, so is Ganondorf's. Really, there's nothing separating Voldemort and Ganondorf here.
Still less threatening than the Master Sword, but this is off topic.
Why would him helping Zant make him immune to Twilight when he is not even immune to his own power? That makes no sense,
Marnie's been controlled. As I recall from your "Death is controllable" argument, that's all it takes. So Ganondorf possesses her easily. Or we can just have Midna forcibly remove the spirit from Marnie.
He's immune to the Fused Shadow's effect, and that's enough to resist anything True Blood has. He can make twilight portals to get wherever he wants.
BFR will not work.
Dorf defeated a being made of energy. We don't ever see him able to do so against a physical being. We see they aren't made of flesh. Anyone can eyeball this. I mean its hypocritical of you to eyeball guesstimate and then say prove it. So hypocritical.
In Hyrule they survive the feat which doesn't mean Hylians can survive modern weaponry, physical attacks, etc. apples and oranges. 😄
We see portrayal wise the axe hurts him. We see canonically that Bulbin failed to critically injure kill him so his combat strength is terrible.
We see him impaled by two swords. You can pretend things bounce off his skin. They don't. You can't make baseless claims. You need to prove it.
We see his magic can kill without durability killing. Point proven.
Actually its worse since the Ak one shot kills unlike the Master Sword.
His magic helped fuel the power. Why would the Twili effect him when he and Zant are working together ? Do you think their plan would be for Dorf to be unable to return to Hyrule ? Did you miss the cutscene where they agreed to work together ? That makes no sense.
Dorf cannot control unless the person is unconscious. Stated in HH. So sad I have to educate you on your game but Demz the breaks. Midna can't break through Marnie's shields.
He resists Fused Shadow which doesn't mean he's immune to all attacks. Where do you come up with these terrible arguments ? Twilight portals are portals to Twilight not to other dimensions. We also never saw him return on his own but only after he needed Zant's partnership in order to do so. Sorry, but he's bfr'd like before. No partnership here to get out of jail.
Bfr has worked for a long time. Bfr will work again. He isn't piggybacking another lesser to get out. Fae magic bfrs. Fae magic also doesn't bfr to Twili.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteYou're the one who made the baseless claim. Claim denied since you speculate.
So your argument is baseless and you can't back your claim.
They have no way to overcome resistance, this is obvious, plain.
Ganondorf went to the Twilight room through a portal, a door.
And now that he has control of his powers it won't happen anymore.
You have to prove he has resistance. You keep saying resistance without proving it.
Mirror bfr'd him. Fact. Master Sword beat him. Fact.
He had control of his powers but needed Zant's partnership to break free. Quit ignoring the game.
Fae magic bfrs him, modern weaponry blows him up, Russell drains him, Marnie controls him, other vamps drain him, Maryann beats him, Godric rips his throat out, etc.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. They aren't made of what we know and can weigh anyways so it is useless to speculate. The ease is everything. If someone can effortlessly palm 200 lbs. and someone can bench 1,000 pounds with all their strength what is more impressive ?
The thousand is easily more impressive given Link's level of effort and ability to do so multiple times without getting tired. Besides, we know how much rock and iron weigh, and we know how much ice weighs. That math has already been done.
Dorf defeated a being made of energy. We don't ever see him able to do so against a physical being. We see they aren't made of flesh. Anyone can eyeball this. I mean its hypocritical of you to eyeball guesstimate and then say prove it. So hypocritical.
I don't think you fully understand how this works. Your claim that they are made of only energy is not readily apparent to the eye. The Sages are shown touching a physical object, so they are obviously interacting with the physical world. Unless you can present something better, your energy claim holds no water.
In Hyrule they survive the feat which doesn't mean Hylians can survive modern weaponry, physical attacks, etc. apples and oranges. 😄
We see portrayal wise the axe hurts him. We see canonically that Bulbin failed to critically injure kill him so his combat strength is terrible.
We don't see the axe hurt Link, portrayal or otherwise. We canonically see him toss a huge boar, which directly shows his combat strength is greater than Russel's. How strong do you have to be to toss a boar that size, do you think?
We see him impaled by two swords. You can pretend things bounce off his skin. They don't. You can't make baseless claims. You need to prove it.
Just to make sure we're on the same page here. Do you actually know what the Master Sword is? Do you know how the Triforce of Power works? Because it's statements like that one that really makes me question whether or not you even know who Ganondorf is.
We see his magic can kill without durability killing. Point proven.
What are you talking about here? We were discussing the reasoning behind Ganondorf and Voldemort being undead creatures, nothing about offensive magic. Your reasoning for why Ganondorf is undead also applies to Voldemort, that is all.
Actually its worse since the Ak one shot kills unlike the Master Sword.
Did you read my post? I'm not certain you did. Do you not remember that we are discussing how Voldemort was defeated by love? I was saying the Master Sword was more impressive than a love charm. What does Avada Kedavra have to do with any part of that?
His magic helped fuel the power. Why would the Twili effect him when he and Zant are working together ? Do you think their plan would be for Dorf to be unable to return to Hyrule ? Did you miss the cutscene where they agreed to work together ? That makes no sense.
"His magic helped fuel the power."
There's your answer. Ganondorf is not immune to his own magic, so if its his magic powering Twilight, of course Ganondorf isn't immune to it. The guy is capable of harming himself with his own magic. Do you not understand this? Wait, question. First of all, do you agree that Ganondorf can be harmed by his own magic?
Dorf cannot control unless the person is unconscious. Stated in HH. So sad I have to educate you on your game but Demz the breaks. Midna can't break through Marnie's shields.
If you're going to lie to me, at least try to make sure I can't doublecheck your BS. Also, maybe it would help if I didn't know more about the subject than you. (Midna broke the shield around Hyrule Castle, she will break Marnie's face.)
He resists Fused Shadow which doesn't mean he's immune to all attacks. Where do you come up with these terrible arguments ? Twilight portals are portals to Twilight not to other dimensions. We also never saw him return on his own but only after he needed Zant's partnership in order to do so. Sorry, but he's bfr'd like before. No partnership here to get out of jail.
Please quote where I said Ganondorf was protected from all attacks. Otherwise, congrats on beating a straw man? I said that Ganondorf has shown resistance to the mental and transformative effects of the Fused Shadows, and he therefore has resistance to mental and transformation effects.
Tell me quan, where is Ganon coming from in this image, and where is he going?
Spoiler:
Hint: From the Twilight Realm and to the Light World. He travels between them easily.
Bfr has worked for a long time. Bfr will work again. He isn't piggybacking another lesser to get out. Fae magic bfrs. Fae magic also doesn't bfr to Twili.
It worked once, before Ganondorf got control of is powers. See the above image for how Ganondorf can portal to and from the Twilight Realm quickly, and in combat no less. Even assuming the BFR works (it won't) Ganondorf can portal himself back in seconds. (Heck, if you really need to see why this won't work, Zant could just go fetch him after he soloes True Blood himself.)
Originally posted by quanchi112
You're the one who made the baseless claim. Claim denied since you speculate.You have to prove he has resistance. You keep saying resistance without proving it.
Mirror bfr'd him. Fact. Master Sword beat him. Fact.
He had control of his powers but needed Zant's partnership to break free. Quit ignoring the game.
Fae magic bfrs him, modern weaponry blows him up, Russell drains him, Marnie controls him, other vamps drain him, Maryann beats him, Godric rips his throat out, etc.
Ganon has the ToP.
The ToP makes him highly resistant to magic and super durable.
The fae have no feats of overcoming magic resistance on any significant level.
They thus can do nothing to him. Also lol at modern weapons blowing him up. If the fused shadows couldn't do it an RPG certainly won't.
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Figured its worth Scream and Scene seeing just how a Faeries BFR works.