Thor (CIS/CIP OFF) vs Superboy Prime

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Originally posted by Badabing
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Just messing around. My next post was gonna be about how Thor has a weakness to being punched in the face. durthor

Back to the depths with thee foul lizard!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes.

Yes.

So if I pick up the arc, you're telling me we won't see a gradual increase as Superman discovers he can use his powers? I'm just curious.

To use Superboy to weaken Prime's powers? Do you have any proof of that? They needed Superboy's help just like they needed Bart but stop writing off their effectiveness without any evidence.


No.

No.

You wouldn't see Superman gaining his powers back gradually for one year. Then he willed them back and they gradually came back.

So ignoring his basic power set. Gotcha.

Originally posted by abhilegend
See the last line? BFR is off.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman's weakness to red sun isn't a common knowledge. Kryptonite is. Contestants can't leave the battlefield in case of no BFR. So no teleporting.

I didn't bring up teleportation but is taking them both into a Red Star against the rules? We'll wait for Carver to clarify.

It should qualify. Seems most of the superhuman community knows about it now. As a matter of fact, Red Solar Radiation is one of the go to moves against Kryptonians even with human military.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No.

No.

You wouldn't see Superman gaining his powers back gradually for one year. Then he willed them back and they gradually came back.

So ignoring his basic power set. Gotcha.

What? That didn't make much sense. So he did gradually get them back once he accepted them?

If you can prove that it is, then we'd be somewhere. At the moment you're extrapolating from Pre-Crisis Kryptonians, it's all circumstantial evidence at best.

Pretty much everyone on the planet knew about him being kept in a red sun for years.

Common knowledge.

Not saying he would do it. But acting like it's some super secret is pretty dumb.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I didn't bring up teleportation but is taking them both into a Red Star against the rules? We'll wait for Carver to clarify.

It should qualify. Seems most of the superhuman community knows about it now. As a matter of fact, Red Solar Radiation is one of the go to moves against Kryptonians even with human military.


Its in the forum rules.

SBP's weakness isn't common knowledge.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? That didn't make much sense. So he did gradually get them back once he accepted them?

If you can prove that it is, then we'd be somewhere. At the moment you're extrapolating from Pre-Crisis Kryptonians, it's all circumstantial evidence at best.


Yes. He takes time to recharge, y'know. Its not the first time either. After he depowered himself in final night, he spent months depowered because subconsciously he wanted a normal life.

Not if you know how SBP's powers work. Its like saying Xenith being dependent on confidence is extrapolation from Gladiator. They have the same powerset.

Kryptonians being fueled by yellow sun and being adverse to Kryptonite/Red Sun/Magic is common knowledge for the DCU. Superboy Prime is infamous in the superhuman community for good reason and his weaknesses aren't a massive secret.

Even Triumph knew about it, and he was kind of an outcast in the super hero community.

I don't see Thor replicating what Prime did, not even close. Prime rapes him like he did Ion and pretty much all of DC earths heros too.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Kryptonians being fueled by yellow sun and being adverse to Kryptonite/Red Sun/Magic is common knowledge for the DCU. Superboy Prime is infamous in the superhuman community for good reason and his weaknesses aren't a massive secret.

Superheroes, yes. General populace, no.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its in the forum rules.

SBP's weakness isn't common knowledge.

Where? Seriously link them.

Superboy being a rogue Superman is common knowledge and so are all his weaknesses. We should just get a mod ruling on it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. He takes time to recharge, y'know. Its not the first time either. After he depowered himself in final night, he spent months depowered because subconsciously he wanted a normal life.

Not if you know how SBP's powers work. Its like saying Xenith being dependent on confidence is extrapolation from Gladiator. They have the same powerset.

Okay, so how does that translate into Prime being depowered by the mere presence of Conner?

No, it's like extrapolating that Xenith can replicate anything Gladiator has done because they're from the same race. You can either prove it with evidence or you can't. It's really that simple.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where? Seriously link them.

Superboy being a rogue Superman is common knowledge and so are all his weaknesses. We should just get a mod ruling on it.

Okay, so how does that translate into Prime being depowered by the mere presence of Conner?

No, it's like extrapolating that Xenith can replicate anything Gladiator has done because they're from the same race. You can either prove it with evidence or you can't. It's really that simple.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

To the general populace? Absolutely not.

Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows.
The general populace doesn't know about superman's red sun weakness.

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match.

Johns wrote kryptonians with dynamic power set. He wrote Prime as fearful and less confident against connor and bart and thus less powerfull.

In other words you don't read a single scan I posted.

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t461496.html

To the general populace? Absolutely not.

The general populace doesn't know about superman's red sun weakness.

Johns wrote kryptonians with dynamic power set. He wrote Prime as fearful and less confident against connor and bart and thus less powerfull.

In other words you don't read a single scan I posted.

Hmmm? How many more people have to know about it before you accept it? Seriously, the military turned the Sun Red to kill Kryptonians.

Like I said, what if Thor teleports both of them into a Red Sun? I'm not the one who brought it up, but it is an interesting idea.

Provide some actual evidence that supports this. Stop extrapolating from completely different circumstances like you are and give us some evidence that isn't circumstantial at best.

Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hmmm? How many more people have to know about it before you accept it? Seriously, the military turned the Sun Red to kill Kryptonians.

Like I said, what if Thor teleports both of them into a Red Sun? I'm not the one who brought it up, but it is an interesting idea.

Provide some actual evidence that supports this. Stop extrapolating from completely different circumstances like you are and give us some evidence that isn't circumstantial at best.


How about I post the scan in which Batman says even kryptonite as superman's weakness isn't general knowledge?

Why would he? He doesn't know about the red sun weakness.

Treating powerstes as powersets and writer intent isn't extrapolating. You of all people should know better.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How about I post the scan in which Batman says even kryptonite as superman's weakness isn't general knowledge?

Why would he? He doesn't know about the red sun weakness.

Treating powerstes as powersets and writer intent isn't extrapolating. You of all people should know better.

That changes things how? Superman's weakness being kryptonite is general knowledge on our world, lol.

Pr, can we get a ruling on this if possible? Is Red Solar Radiation weakness common knowledge or not? I'd have said no, but since the New Krypton saga, I don't really see how it wouldn't be the case. Also, if anyone can double check, didn't the Daily Planet report on the Sun being turned Red against the Kryptonians?

This is very simple, you aren't going to convince me unless you posted actual evidence.

Preboot, red sun would be common knowledge, iirc.

New 52, nope.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Preboot, red sun would be common knowledge, iirc.

New 52, nope.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Preboot, red sun would be common knowledge, iirc.

New 52, nope.

Okay, thanks for the ruling and yea, I agree. I'm not sure even Kryptonite is common knowledge in the New 52 tbh.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That changes things how? Superman's weakness being kryptonite is general knowledge on our world, lol.

Pr, can we get a ruling on this if possible? Is Red Solar Radiation weakness common knowledge or not? I'd have said no, but since the New Krypton saga, I don't really see how it wouldn't be the case. Also, if anyone can double check, didn't the Daily Planet report on the Sun being turned Red against the Kryptonians?

This is very simple, you aren't going to convince me unless you posted actual evidence.


Not in DCU though according to batman.

This is useless after the mod ruling.

You think I actually care about that? I doubt you would be convinced even if Geoff Johns himself tells you so.