Kryptonians vs. Asgardians

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I think it goes without question that the Kryptonians physical capabilities far out weigh the Asgardians but i can't rightly say who wins considering that i have nothing to gage the type of damage that the Asgardian powers will have over the Kryptons. For all i know it will affect them just as much on Earth as it would as if they were on Krypton. I also don't know how affective their armor would be against magical attacks. Assuming that the magic has nominal affects then i think they would still be agile and strong enough to win. Not only do they have armor but they also have vehicles to shield them from the magic. If the magic has the same destructive effect on them as though they were on Krypton then i dont think the Kryptons have much of a chance at all. They would all have to stand in line and spam their heat vision at once.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
No we are not underestimating Asgard.

The asgardians are weaksauce. Sorry.

Loki walked through Machine gun fire and survived the Bi-Frost explosion.

They are not weaksauce, maybe not as physically powerful as Kryptonians but they are tough sons of B*tches.

IM's repulsor blast,probably one of the most powerful weapons on Earth, didn't even phase Thor and only knocked Loki down.

You guys are also forgetting things like a Warthog's gattling gun being able to hurt and knock down Nam-Ek so it's not like the Kryptonians are all powerful either or incapable of being hurt. I think the Destroyer's beam could mess them up.

If Thor unleashes his Jottenheim buster that would also mess quite a few of them up.

I have no doubt the Asgardian weapons will be able to pierce a Kyrptonain.

Also Odin has the Cosmic Cube and casket of ancient winters. I think that gives the Asgardians a considerable firepower advantage over the Kryptonians.

Originally posted by Newjak
Loki walked through Machine gun fire and survived the Bi-Frost explosion.

They are not weaksauce, maybe not as physically powerful as Kryptonians but they are tough sons of B*tches.

IM's repulsor blast,probably one of the most powerful weapons on Earth, didn't even phase Thor and only knocked Loki down.

You guys are also forgetting things like a Warthog's gattling gun being able to hurt and knock down Nam-Ek so it's not like the Kryptonians are all powerful either or incapable of being hurt. I think the Destroyer's beam could mess them up.

If Thor unleashes his Jottenheim buster that would also mess quite a few of them up.

I have no doubt the Asgardian weapons will be able to pierce a Kyrptonain.

Also Odin has the Cosmic Cube and casket of ancient winters. I think that gives the Asgardians a considerable firepower advantage over the Kryptonians.

LOL. Nam-Ek tanked the machine gun. He stood there and took it whereas Thor ducked and looked for cover like a *****.

I am not claiming the kyptonians are all powerful. i am simply saying they are above asgardians and 1000 of them would unleash hell on asgard.

Lots of ifs on asgard's side. Fact of the matter is they will probably get blitzed to hell.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
LOL. Nam-Ek tanked the machine gun. He stood there and took it whereas Thor ducked and looked for cover like a *****.

I am not claiming the kyptonians are all powerful. i am simply saying they are above asgardians and 1000 of them would unleash hell on asgard.

Lots of ifs on asgard's side. Fact of the matter is they will probably get blitzed to hell.

He gotted knocked down and hurt. Thor TANKED an IM replusor blast to the face. IM's blast >>> than Warthog gun fire based on feats.

They are physically above Asgardians but based on what we know about Asgard that's about all I'm willing to give them.

Not a lot of ifs at all.

The casket of ancient winters hurt Heimdall one of the most powerful Asgardians. Volstag was a afraid of him, remember the guy that survived a Destroyer blast, although seriously injured from it.

The Cosmic Cube was able to take Thor's attacks.

Thor's Jottenheim Buster >>>> than Warthog bullets and would probably seriously hurt a couple of Kryptonians.

Odin > Thor

Thor's durability is beyond question, he is very durable, yet an Asgardian dagger easily pierced his armor, at least capable of taking machine gun fire, and his flesh able to tank IM repulsor Blasts. So I think asgardian weapons will be able to hurt the kyrptonians.

That's not a bunch of what ifs.

Those are feats and based on what I saw from the Kryptonians anyone saying this is a stomp should take a step back to actually see that Asgard is far from being weaksauce. They have some pretty powerful things going for them. Is it enough to beat the Krptonians I'm unsure but I do think they will make one hell of a fight of it and take down more than their fair share of the enemy even if they do lose.

Edit: Also Superman dodged the airplane's weapon fire as well so stop bringing weak points to this argument that don't matter.

Originally posted by Newjak
He gotted knocked down and hurt. Thor TANKED an IM replusor blast to the face. IM's blast >>> than Warthog gun fire based on feats.
Based on showings Thor thought he couldn't take the f-22's firepower.

Originally posted by Newjak

They are physically above Asgardians but based on what we know about Asgard that's about all I'm willing to give them.
Yeah...superior phisicality and equal technology. Yes.
Originally posted by Newjak

Not a lot of ifs at all.
Yes lots of Ifs.
Originally posted by Newjak

The casket of ancient winters hurt Heimdall one of the most powerful Asgardians. Volstag was a afraid of him, remember the guy that survived a Destroyer blast, although seriously injured from it.
Heimdall is a ***** compared to the kryptonians. You can say he is one of the most powerful asgardians, but really...what has he done? Nothing. He was frozen. Then he broke free. A random kryptonian will probably do the same shit. I don't care about Volstagg. He and the warriors 3 are shit.
Originally posted by Newjak

The Cosmic Cube was able to take Thor's attacks.

Originally posted by Newjak

Thor's Jottenheim Buster >>>> than Warthog bullets and would probably seriously hurt a couple of Kryptonians.
Thor can try to Joutenheim bust all he wants. He will get knocked out of his ass for trying it. Sorry.

Originally posted by Newjak

Odin > Thor

Comatose old man>Thor. Cool.
Originally posted by Newjak

Thor's durability is beyond question, he is very durable, yet an Asgardian dagger easily pierced his armor, at least capable of taking machine gun fire, and his flesh able to tank IM repulsor Blasts
No one is doubting Thor's durability. However the fact your average kryptonian has durability on par with Thor's(not as tough as him, but they are pretty much hanging in the same tier) seems to elude you.
Originally posted by Newjak

That's not a bunch of what ifs.
Trying to convince yourself?
Originally posted by Newjak

Those are feats and based on what I saw from the Kryptonians anyone saying this is a stomp should take a second back top actually see that Asgard is far from being weaksauce. They have some pretty powerful things going for them. Is it enough to beat the Krptonians I'm unsure but I do think they will make one hell of a fight of it and take down more than their fair share of the enemy even if they do lose.

This is a stomp and no matter how you try to sugarcoat it the fact remains a thousand kryptonians would **** Asgard.

Really...Thor and Odin(combat featless wonder, mind you) are the only guys who can compete with these kryptonians. The rest of asgard gets curbstomped.

Seriously. Try to remember all the davastation 4 kryptonians caused in MoS. Try to grasp the figure of a thousand kryptonians cutting loose.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Based on showings Thor thought he couldn't take the f-22's firepower.

Yeah...superior phisicality and equal technology. Yes.
Yes lots of Ifs.
Heimdall is a ***** compared to the kryptonians. You can say he is one of the most powerful asgardians, but really...what has he done? Nothing. He was frozen. Then he broke free. A random kryptonian will probably do the same shit. I don't care about Volstagg. He and the warriors 3 are shit.

Thor can try to Joutenheim bust all he wants. He will get knocked out of his ass for trying it. Sorry.

Comatose old man>Thor. Cool.
No one is doubting Thor's durability. However the fact your average kryptonian has durability on par with Thor's(not as tough as him, but they are pretty much hanging in the same tier) seems to elude you.
Trying to convince yourself?

This is a stomp and no matter how you try to sugarcoat it the fact remains a thousand kryptonians would **** Asgard.

Really...Thor and Odin(combat featless wonder, mind you) are the only guys who can compete with these kryptonians. The rest of asgard gets curbstomped.

Seriously. Try to remember all the davastation 4 kryptonians caused in MoS. Try to grasp the figure of a thousand kryptonians cutting loose.

Superman also dodged the gunfire you fool 😛

Obviously he thought he couldn't take it right 🙄

I could go on through your points but I think you're missing the prod picture here.

You yourself mentioned that yes a Krptonian is equal to Thor durability. A simple Asgardian dagger was able to hurt Thor therefore you also think the dagger would be able to hurt a Kryptonian as well. So Asgardian weapons can hurt Kryptonians. The casket of Ancient winters was able to take down and seriously hurt one of Asgards most powerful people. Even if you assign Heimdall average Asgardian stats, the average Asgardian assuming Volstagg as the measuring stick is still incredibly tough. So something that can hurt them will also hurt a Kyprtonian.

It didn't take very long for Thor to use the J-Buster.

Insulting Odin does not strengthen your position it just makes you look foolish.

Honestly I would say based on showings Asgardian tech >>> than Kyrptonian tech considering Asgard has reached such a high level of technology that almost everything they do is thought based with it. Like they said it borders on magic.

Plus Asgard has the cosmic cube which is stated to be unlimited power.

The Bi-Frost was going to destroy an entire planet by itself.

Also Thor J-Buster caused almost the same amount of damage by himself.

So Thor cutting loose == 4 Kyrptonian's devastation therefore Thor must win right? I think you should rethink all you just said about that.

Originally posted by Newjak
Superman also dodged the gunfire you fool 😛

Obviously he thought he couldn't take it right 🙄

So? He also took minigun fire from a chopper without giving a single ****.
Originally posted by Newjak

I could go on through your points but I think you're missing the prod picture here.
Okay?
Originally posted by Newjak

You yourself mentioned that yes a Krptonian is equal to Thor durability. A simple Asgardian dagger was able to hurt Thor therefore you also think the dagger would be able to hurt a Kryptonian as well. So Asgardian weapons can hurt Kryptonians. The casket of Ancient winters was able to take down and seriously hurt one of Asgards most powerful people. Even if you assign Heimdall average Asgardian stats, the average Asgardian assuming Volstagg as the measuring stick is still incredibly tough. So something that can hurt them will also hurt a Kyprtonian.
We don't know if the dagger would be able to pierce kryptonian armor. bro...Heimdall is a *****. You can say he is one of asgard's most powerful, but imho all that does is make the asgardians look worse. One of asgard's most powerful beings being subpar compared to random kryptonians.
Originally posted by Newjak
It didn't take very long for Thor to use the J-Buster.
It took him long enough. Faora, Zod and possibly any random kryptonian would stop him.
Originally posted by Newjak

Insulting Odin does not strengthen your position it just makes you look foolish.
Excuse me for insulting an old man whose only combat feat is knocking Lafey on his ass.
Originally posted by Newjak

Honestly I would say based on showings Asgardian tech >>> than Kyrptonian tech considering Asgard has reached such a high level of technology that almost everything they do is thought based with it. Like they said it borders on magic.
Except the World Engine did more damage than the bifrost. Cool about their technology feeling like magic. I think controlling blackhoholes is magic too.
Originally posted by Newjak

Plus Asgard has the cosmic cube which is stated to be unlimited power.
LOL. No showings what so ever.
Originally posted by Newjak

The Bi-Frost was going to destroy an entire planet by itself.
So was the world engine.
Originally posted by Newjak

Also Thor J-Buster caused almost the same amount of damage by himself.
GG
Originally posted by Newjak

So Thor cutting loose == 4 Kyrptonian's devastation therefore Thor must win right? I think you should rethink all you just said about that.

Zod would **** the living shit out of Thor.

Edit BTW I am going to copout. Take it as you will. Gonna go make some BBQ hotdogs =D

Originally posted by Newjak
Loki walked through Machine gun fire and survived the Bi-Frost explosion.

They are not weaksauce, maybe not as physically powerful as Kryptonians but they are tough sons of B*tches.

IM's repulsor blast,probably one of the most powerful weapons on Earth, didn't even phase Thor and only knocked Loki down.

You guys are also forgetting things like a Warthog's gattling gun being able to hurt and knock down Nam-Ek so it's not like the Kryptonians are all powerful either or incapable of being hurt. I think the Destroyer's beam could mess them up.

If Thor unleashes his Jottenheim buster that would also mess quite a few of them up.

I have no doubt the Asgardian weapons will be able to pierce a Kyrptonain.

Also Odin has the Cosmic Cube and casket of ancient winters. I think that gives the Asgardians a considerable firepower advantage over the Kryptonians.

Meanwhile Volstagg got KO's by an explosion, the swordsmen guy got KO's by a simple knife stab, Heimdall was frozen, etc. Loki (hybrid race) and Thor (son of Odin) aren't your typical Asgardian.

The gatling gun didn't hurt Nam-ek AT ALL. He was thrown back a bit by the force of the bullets, but then just dusted himself off and proceeded to destroy the warthog effortlessly.

Superman solo's

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Meanwhile Volstagg got KO's by an explosion, the swordsmen guy got KO's by a simple knife stab, Heimdall was frozen, etc. Loki (hybrid race) and Thor (son of Odin) aren't your typical Asgardian.

The gatling gun didn't hurt Nam-ek AT ALL. He was thrown back a bit by the force of the bullets, but then just dusted himself off and proceeded to destroy the warthog effortlessly.

"swodsman" guy was KO'd by a Frost Giant's ice spike - not a knife. Heimdall was frozen by the cask of winters which is an extremely powerful magical device.

Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Even with their masks and space-suits on, they're still way too powerful and durable for Asgardians. You get the impression only Thor and Odin are real superheroes and the rest are average warriors, look at how Sif and the rest of them fight.

About ten Kryptonians almost destroyed Earth. Now there's a 1000? Lolol.

Yeah, this is spite.

Originally posted by Newjak
All we know is that each one is supposedly as dangerous as the casket of ancient winters. Making them powerful weapons.

Quote from the movies for that?

Originally posted by ares834
Yeah, this is spite.

Quote from the movies for that?

"If the Frost Giant had stolen even one of these relics"

That quote was by Thor stating that it didn't matter which one they took they would all be dangerous in the hand of the Johttens

Lol at Zack slobbering all over kryptonian schlong.

Quiet woman.

You floss with Cavill's pubes.

Super pubes bro

Originally posted by Supra
Superman solo's

That'd take a while but yeah.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Super pubes bro

The average Kryptonian should be like worth like a dozen Asgardian's in combat. They'd have to rely on their superior technology and weapons. If Odin can get his hands on something like the Cosmic Cube, Tesseract or the Infinity Gauntlet etc. it's going to be hell for the Kryptonian's I'd wager.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
So? He also took minigun fire from a chopper without giving a single ****.
Okay?
We don't know if the dagger would be able to pierce kryptonian armor. bro...Heimdall is a *****. You can say he is one of asgard's most powerful, but imho all that does is make the asgardians look worse. One of asgard's most powerful beings being subpar compared to random kryptonians.
It took him long enough. Faora, Zod and possibly any random kryptonian would stop him.
Excuse me for insulting an old man whose only combat feat is knocking Lafey on his ass.
Except the World Engine did more damage than the bifrost. Cool about their technology feeling like magic. I think controlling blackhoholes is magic too.
LOL. No showings what so ever.
So was the world engine.
GG

Zod would **** the living shit out of Thor.

[b]Edit BTW I am going to copout. Take it as you will. Gonna go make some BBQ hotdogs =D [/B]

Hmmm? The World Engine was not going to destroy Earth, the entire point was to terraform the planet, lol. It was a device that changed the gravity of the planet and it's atmosphere gradually. We only saw the Bifrost hitting the Frost Giants for a brief moment but it was already doing widespread destruction IIRC, and was going to build until it destroyed it.

Also, the Phantom Zone is a portal to another dimension, it does not have the destructive properties of a black hole. Although apparently it is a black hole.

If you want to compare technology, Mjolnir being forged from the heart of a dying Star is really up there. So is the BiFrost as it's able to teleport beings across the Universe. Throw in the random magical crap like enchanting, astral projection, and shit then they obviously have superior resources. Zod however was able to enter Superman's mind so they aren't without their own versatile technology.

I didn't read any of the other posts but are you arguing that dodging suggests inferior durability?