Kryptonians vs. Asgardians

Originally posted by ares834
Don't know how you can come to such a number.

Once again, despite being in armor, the Kryptonians had a ton of power.

Yes, when the atmosphere was turned back on he got some of his power back and yes the WE did weaken him. That doesn't mean it gives him 70% of his power.

Edit: Just was watching a version online and the scientist dude says "The strength you derive from exposure to the Earth's sun has been neutralized on our ship."

Obviously it was just an estimation.

I think it's just being around Earth's atmosphere? Not sure. The other Kryptonians still seemed powerless while on the ship despite the atmosphere change which was confusing.

Hmm, he said the Sun and also pointed out that in this environment he's like human. So 50/50 I guess seems fair.

Originally posted by ares834
Don't know how you can come to such a number.

Once again, despite being in armor, the Kryptonians had a ton of power.

Yes, when the atmosphere was turned back on he got some of his power back and yes the WE did weaken him. That doesn't mean it gives him 70% of his power.

Edit: Just was watching a version online and the scientist dude says "The strength you derive from exposure to the Earth's sun has been neutralized on our ship."

All we know is that the only time Kal was completely weakened was when he was in 100 percent Kryptonian atmosphere and he didn't get his powers back until he was re-exposed to an Earth like atmosphere, and it was an immediate repowering instantly getting his strength back as he broke through the bonds that moments ago had him powerless.

All the other Kyrptonains were also powerless while exposed to the Kyrptonian Atmosphere of the ship. Which is why Lois was able to leave.

Also I just had a thought. I don't think the armor is meant to fully recreate Kyrpton's atmosphere. It's just used to protect them from space\injury and to allow them to breath, after all the only thing they slapped on Lois was the breathing apparatus\helmet and not an entire suit to allow her to enter the ship.

Originally posted by Newjak
The armor never seemed to play a role in one direction or the other.

All we know is that the only time Kal was completely weakened was when he was in 100 percent Kryptonian atmosphere and he didn't get his powers back until he was re-exposed to an Earth like atmosphere, and it was an immediate repowering instantly getting his strength back as he broke through the bonds that moments ago had him powerless.

All the other Kyrptonains were also powerless while exposed to the Kyrptonian Atmosphere of the ship. Which is why Lois was able to leave.

It seems an arbitrary distinction to say the armor doesn't play a role at all.

Anyway, as you say the other Kryptonians were powerless when Lois attempts to leave the ship which suggests that their is more involved than just the atmosphere.

Originally posted by Newjak
Also I just had a thought. I don't think the armor is meant to fully recreate Kyrpton's atmosphere. It's just used to protect them from space\injury and to allow them to breath, after all the only thing they slapped on Lois was the breathing apparatus\helmet and not an entire suit to allow her to enter the ship.

It's clearly meant to produce the Kryptonian atmosphere. Hell, it looks just like the breathing apparatus they gave Lois. If we are going to make baseless assumptions I could just as easily state that that the Kryptonians added something to the ship's atmosphere to neutralize Supe's powers.

Originally posted by ares834
It seems an arbitrary distinction to say the armor doesn't play a role at all.

Anyway, as you say the other Kryptonians were powerless when Lois attempts to leave the ship which suggests that their is more involved than just the atmosphere.

It's clearly meant to produce the Kryptonian atmosphere. Hell, it looks just like the breathing apparatus they gave Lois. If we are going to make baseless assumptions I could just as easily state that that the Kryptonians added something to the ship's atmosphere to neutralize Supe's powers.

No it doesn't Lois was freed before Jor_el changed the Atmopshere to be like earth's didn't he.

No it wasn't the armor was simply to allow them to breath and protect them that doesn't mean the armor coated their entire body in their natural atmosphere so it's not a baseless claim.

I think the kryptonian's superior speed, strength, and jumping capabilities are most likely the result of Earth's weaker gravity.

Originally posted by Newjak
No it isn't nothing shown about the armor has demonstrated it to play any kind of role in keeping them powered or powered down.

No it doesn't Lois was freed before Jor_el changed the Atmopshere to be like earth's didn't he.

No it wasn't the armor was simply to allow them to breath and protect them that doesn't mean the armor coated their entire body in their natural atmosphere so it's not a baseless claim.

Yes it is a baseless claim. You're arbitrarily making up rules considering the Kryptonians powers to better suit you're argument. Correct me if I' wrong, but your claiming that a Kryptonian atmosphere negates their powers but for some magical reason the Kryptonian armor doesn't. Yes?

And no, Jor-El changed the atmosphere before Lois's escape.

A wise man once said:

Originally posted by juggerman
Kryptonians for the stomp

Originally posted by FrothByte
I think the kryptonian's superior speed, strength, and jumping capabilities are most likely the result of Earth's weaker gravity.

THIS IS A FUKING JOKE. The new MOS universe Kryptonians maked Thor and the rest of the Marvel Cinematic Universe look like fukin' jokes. I hope a crossover movie is never made.

It would be an epic battle indeed with all the stored weapons in asgard and full asgardian army vs kryptonian army and only superman and zod with powers I have to give nod to Asgard

kryptonian weakness RED sun,kryptonite and they are like humans, quickly dispatched , but id rather see an epic battle first