Superman vs Hancock and Neo

Started by Mindship9 pages

Leaning toward Hancock and Neo. I think Supes would take either one alone, but together they're probably too much for the MOS nube.

Originally posted by marwash22
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"he got cut with a sword"... yeah, he also jumps into bodies and explodes them.

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I understand they wanted to show us that despite all of Neo's powers, he still has limits, but considering he took far greater hits without a scratch, that sword scene was out of place.

definitely. it's what people in the comic vs forum would call a low showing, and it shouldn't be used to define the character was human level in terms of durability.

btw, I've watched all the Matrix special features and i don't recall them explaining why the sword cut his hand.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The OP stated that Neo has all his abilities, that means we treat Matrix feats as if they happened in the real world....why are people having a hard time understanding this?

And I'm illustrating that Neo doesn't actually have invulnerability. He has speed and reality warping to a degree. And no super strength; that rapid fire kung fu will feel like a woodpecker pecking a tree to Superman. I don't think it's enough against Superman, in the end.

Originally posted by roughrider
And I'm illustrating that Neo doesn't actually have invulnerability. He has speed and reality warping to a degree. And no super strength; that rapid fire kung fu will feel like a woodpecker pecking a tree to Superman. I don't think it's enough against Superman, in the end.

So, we just ignore all his strength and durability feats?

Originally posted by FrothByte
However if you give Neo all his powers from the matrix as stated in OP, then he not only has strength and speed to rival Superman, he also has vastly superior h2h skills and some form of TK.

Oh yeah, i got that which is why noted that inside the matrix there is no question that Neo wins. Outside of it though, he is just outclassed. There has to be a limit as to what his powers can achieve where as inside of the matrix there are no limits. Supermans, limits and boundaries, i believe, are far superior to Neos' while outside of the matrix.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Oh yeah, i got that which is why noted that inside the matrix there is no question that Neo wins. Outside of it though, he is just outclassed. There has to be a limit as to what his powers can achieve where as inside of the matrix there are no limits. Supermans, limits and boundaries, i believe, are far superior to Neos' while outside of the matrix.

Yeah, pretty much depends on whether they're fighting inside or outside the matrix.

Re: Superman vs Hancock and Neo

Originally posted by carver9
All of Neo abilities are available here.

doesn't matter where the fight takes place, the OP gave him access to ALL of his abilities... whatever he did in the movies, he can do in this match.

Even the duo cannot take Superman. He is virtually indestructible and packs too much strength...

this guy.

Originally posted by marwash22
this guy.

He breaks through mountains and large rocky formations.

The MVF Golden Rule:

What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

Originally posted by marwash22
The MVF Golden Rule:

What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!


Even in MoS, when superman fell from the clouds, he just broke through the entire hill and was not injured at all.

cool story, bro. How does Superman defend against Neo jumping into his body and blowing him up?

Originally posted by marwash22
cool story, bro. How does Superman defend against Neo jumping into his body and blowing him up?

It is not a cool story, kid; it is actual scene in the movie.

Also, Neo's powers are just simulations even in the movie setting.

Have Neo performed that feat on a Superman like individual? Neo have significant limitations even in the simulated world and will end-up getting crushed like a tin can against Superman.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It is not a cool story, kid; it is actual scene in the movie.

Also, Neo's powers are just simulations even in the movie setting.

Have Neo performed that feat on a Superman like individual? Neo have significant limitations even in the simulated world and will end-up getting crushed like a tin can against Superman.

The OP granted Neo all of his powers for this fight, which includes strength, durability, flight, speed, ability to jump into people's bodies etc etc etc.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The OP granted Neo all of his powers for this fight, which includes strength, durability, flight, speed, ability to jump into people's bodies etc etc etc.

I understand but he still has nothing on Superman. It is futile exercise to consider Superman in versus debates; he packs too much endurance and strength (arguably the most powerful super-character introduced).

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I understand but he still has nothing on Superman.

Except much higher skill and reactions, plus the ability to enter Superman and blow him up from the inside.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Except much higher skill and reactions, plus the ability to enter Superman and blow him up from the inside.

You underestimate Superman's superhuman senses. In addition, much higher skill of Zod didn't help him against Superman; Superman just tolerated everything.

Furthermore, Neo's potential to blow up a super powerful character such as Superman is simply your assumption and speculation; if this is so easy for him then why did not Neo just pull this off against everything he encountered?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You underestimate Superman's superhuman senses. Also, much skill didn't help Zod against him. In addition, blowing up feat is simply your assumption and speculation. If this is so easy for him then why did Neo just pull this off against everything he encountered?

How does Superman's senses stop Neo from jumping into his body and blowing him up? BTW Neo was also far more skilled than Zod.