Hancock vs. Zod

Originally posted by FrothByte
Not being hurt is durability. Not moving while a couple tons of train hits you IS a strength feat. I mean, if a 500 lbs sumo wrestler slammed into you and you casually shrugged him aside, you'd consider that a strength feat no? Same here. And in fact, that's a strength feat far greater than any Zod has shown.

As for the oil rig feat, this was already Clark at 33 years of having his powers. Zod has had his powers only a couple of days (which is probably why Clark beat him).

Again, what has Zod done that makes you think he's stronger or tougher?

I understand why you are saying it was strength. I wasn't looking at it from that way before but the point sure is valid.

Clark never really pushed himself and iirc his footing was compromised. He was holding onto on small portion of the tower which really didn't give him enough support imo. Then the beam he was standing on was giving under the weight. He did and tanked other things that make that a low showing at best

He took on Superman and did great. Hancock took on the lady(Mary?) and looked horrible. He showed he really has not skill to speak of. I highly doubt he'd be able to defeat Zod like Kal did

Originally posted by juggerman
I understand why you are saying it was strength. I wasn't looking at it from that way before but the point sure is valid.

Clark never really pushed himself and iirc his footing was compromised. He was holding onto on small portion of the tower which really didn't give him enough support imo. Then the beam he was standing on was giving under the weight. He did and tanked other things that make that a low showing at best

He took on Superman and did great. Hancock took on the lady(Mary?) and looked horrible. He showed he really has not skill to speak of. I highly doubt he'd be able to defeat Zod like Kal did

His footing in the oil rig only started to give way later on. But when he first tried to support the tower his footing was still firm, and he strained. Superman also got himself dazed when he crash landed while learning to fly. They may be low showings but they're still part of him, we can just dismiss them. Superman, Zod, Faora... all of them were capable of getting hurt. Hancock was never shown to get hurt unless he became mortal.

As for Mary, Mary had full knowledge of her skills. Hancock was suffering from amnesia. These being are centuries maybe thousands of years old. Plus among the kryptonians, only Faora display any actual skill. All of the others were brawlers so I'm not sure where you're getting that Zod is more skilled than Hancock. They basically fight the same.

Mary and Hancock are approximately 3000 years old... though I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

also, Faora was knocked out by a missile and the big dude was knocked on his ass by jet fire.

Originally posted by FrothByte
His footing in the oil rig only started to give way later on. But when he first tried to support the tower his footing was still firm, and he strained. Superman also got himself dazed when he crash landed while learning to fly. They may be low showings but they're still part of him, we can just dismiss them. Superman, Zod, Faora... all of them were capable of getting hurt. Hancock was never shown to get hurt unless he became mortal.

As for Mary, Mary had full knowledge of her skills. Hancock was suffering from amnesia. These being are centuries maybe thousands of years old. Plus among the kryptonians, only Faora display any actual skill. All of the others were brawlers so I'm not sure where you're getting that Zod is more skilled than Hancock. They basically fight the same.

He hadn't started fully using his power yet as stated by Jor El. I don't recall him being dazed when he landed while learning to fly. He got right up calm and tried again. I looked for the clip but can't find it on Youtube. If you can find and post it i'd sure appreciate it.

Zod also displayed skill just not on the level of Faora. He seemed to have the upper hand on a good portion of his fight with Kal. Kal was mostly brawling but was able to overcome the skill gap. Nothing says Hancock will be capable of the same

Hancock's over 3,000 years old, if that matters.

edit. I see mouth has stated it already

Originally posted by marwash22
Mary and Hancock are approximately 3000 years old... though I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

also, Faora was knocked out by a missile and the big dude was knocked on his ass by jet fire.

Yes let's just ignore context shall we. Let's pretend Faora's helmet was not damaged and just the force of the missile KO'd her 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
Yes let's just ignore context shall we. Let's pretend Faora's helmet was not damaged and just the force of the missile KO'd her 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Hancock's over 3,000 years old, if that matters.

edit. I see mouth has stated it already

don't sexualize me. ahuh

I'll do whatever I like with you, Mouth.

YouTube video

I am an adult.

Originally posted by marwash22
let's also pretend that she hadn't recovered before the missile actually hit her... she had turned around and stood there for a few seconds, showing no signs of being hampered by the sensory overload, put her hand out to stop the missile, then got her ass KTFO. 👆

Her helmet was breached and she showed that simple sounds hurt her. Then a huge explosion went off in her face. At no time did she show that sounds no longer hamper her and this is proven later when she still has to wear her helmet and doesn't go without it like Zod does. But yeah senses had nothing to do with it 😂

how did you get this:

Originally posted by juggerman
But yeah senses had nothing to do with it 😂

from this:

Originally posted by marwash22
let's also pretend that she hadn't recovered before the missile actually hit her... she had turned around and stood there for a few seconds, showing no signs of being hampered by the sensory overload, put her hand out to stop the missile, then got her ass KTFO. 👆

She hadn't mastered her senses, but when the missile hit her, she had recovered from the initial overload and the entire blast took effect. How does sound being ONE factor discount this:

Originally posted by marwash22
the big dude was knocked on his ass by jet fire.

are you suggesting that bullets can affect them, but a missile cannot?

Originally posted by marwash22
how did you get this:

from this:

She hadn't mastered her senses, but when the missile hit her, she had recovered from the initial overload and the entire blast took effect. How does sound being ONE factor discount this:

are you suggesting that bullets can affect them, but a missile cannot?

She didn't recover. She stood. Standing =/= recovered. She was still feeling the effects and there is no indication that the initial pain/hindrance was past. Also even if it was that does not mean a sudden onslaught of greatly superior sounds would not affect her.

Bullets never hurt them. Getting knocked back=/= getting injured. Unless of course you're of the mindset that Hancock was harmed every single time Mary knocked him back.

You seem you like falsely equate thing to each other. Not gonna fly here tho

Originally posted by juggerman

Bullets never hurt them. Getting knocked back=/= getting injured. Unless of course you're of the mindset that Hancock was harmed every single time Mary knocked him back.

never said hurt. I said affect.

The bullets made them move (even Kal).

Again, are you suggesting that bullets can affect them, but missiles cannot?

Originally posted by juggerman
You seem you like falsely equate thing to each other. Not gonna fly here tho

Originally posted by marwash22
never said hurt. I said affect.

The bullets made them move (even Kal).

Again, are you suggesting that bullets can affect them, but missiles cannot?

...and you seem to not know the definition of 1st grade vocabulary words.

Who said a missile couldn't move them? We were talking about her being harmed

Good one 👆

Just sit back and let others make these points for you. Just smile and look pretty

Originally posted by juggerman
Who said a missile couldn't move them? We were talking about her being harmed

your argument is that MoS characters are stronger than Hancock.

MoS characters where physically moved from their positions by bullets.

Hancock was NOT physically moved by a speeding train with a couple dozen cars behind it.

are you suggesting that bullets have more force behind them than a train?

Originally posted by marwash22
your argument is that MoS characters are stronger than Hancock.

MoS characters where physically moved from their positions by bullets.

Hancock was NOT physically moved by a speeding train with a couple dozen cars behind it.

are you suggesting that bullets have more force behind them than a train?

Hancock had like 60 years to get accustomed to his powers and never really held back. Nam Ek had his powers for like 13 seconds before he was tossed like that. Faora as well. Kal, while having 33 years with powers, never really cut loose until Zod showed up.

Hancock's only fight against a super powered opponent showed him looking like garbage and he never once took a supersonic hit. He also didn't tank a trunk being slammed on him like he tanked that train

Originally posted by juggerman
Kal, while having 33 years with powers, never really cut loose until Zod showed up.

what does "cutting loose" have to do with his ability to not move when a bullet hits him in the face?

Stop dodging the question, do you think a bullet has more force behind it than a train?

Originally posted by juggerman
Hancock's only fight against a super powered opponent showed him looking like garbage

Originally posted by juggerman
He also didn't tank a trunk being slammed on him like he tanked that train

she hit him with the truck and truck gave way around him... the truck didn't affect him at all.

Originally posted by marwash22
what does "cutting loose" have to do with his ability to not move when a bullet hits him in the face?

Stop dodging the question, do you think a bullet has more force behind it than a train?

and he was never hurt.

wut?

she hit him with the truck and truck gave way around him... the truck didn't affect him at all.

He would have more ability to better handle his power

I didn't. It's obvious so stop trolling

Neither was Zod until the end. Nothing indicated his neck could be broken until it was. Mary never attempted to actually kill Hancock

The ground gave way to the truck. Watch it again