Originally posted by Newjak
It was all kinds of things. The world engine was going to terraform everything including gravity to make it like Krypton.But the main visual effect on the city was the gravity manipulation which is why things would go up and then go down.
Yes, the whole process was very complex and the machines were simultaneously doing a lot; producing extremely powerful tremors; drilling; terraforming and possibly more.
Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't Superman already kill Zod and Faora in a previous movie? How would that make this a Prequel?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Makes sense.Yes, the whole process was very complex and the machines were simultaneously doing a lot; producing extremely powerful tremors; drilling; terraforming and possibly more.
Even if it is a retelling of the original trilogy, it will take several sequels to overwrite the original trilogy. Man of Steel 2 have been already announced.
You still haven't explained how MOS is a prequel, when this happened in the original movie YouTube video
Originally posted by Silent Master
You still haven't explained how MOS is a prequel, when this happened in the original movie YouTube video
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDEven if it is a retelling of the original trilogy, it will take several sequels to overwrite the original trilogy. Man of Steel 2 have been already announced.
That's not how reboots work. Once a series is rebooted, it becomes the current incarnation and the ones before it become previous. The original Superman movies still count, but in their own standalone way.
So MOS Superman only has 1 movie with feats from that 1 movie. We can't give him feats from previous series.
Originally posted by KingD19
That's not how reboots work. Once a series is rebooted, it becomes the current incarnation and the ones before it become previous. The original Superman movies still count, but in their own standalone way.So MOS Superman only has 1 movie with feats from that 1 movie. We can't give him feats from previous series.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I used the word "perhaps." Try to understand points instead of trolling.
You were bringing in feats from other movies and when called on it, you used MOS possibly being a prequel.
So either you think it's a prequel and thus feats from the original trilogy can be used, or it's not a prequal and you were trying to sneak invalid feats into the debate....which is it?
Originally posted by Silent Master
You were bringing in feats from other movies and when called on it, you used MOS possibly being a prequel.So either you think it's a prequel and thus feats from the original trilogy can be used, or it's not a prequal and you were trying to sneak invalid feats into the debate....which is it?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I prefer to consider character on the whole. MoS depicts Superman in learning phase; we can expect more from him even in reboot "series." MoS 2 have been announced.
What you prefer doesn't really matter in this instance. For now, the only movie we have to go on is Man of Steel. You can't claim he'll get stronger or this or that until we see it. So we go by the feats he has. Period.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDThe MoS trilogy isn't the same as the previous movies and it's not a prequel for them.
Makes sense.Yes, the whole process was very complex and the machines were simultaneously doing a lot; producing extremely powerful tremors; drilling; terraforming and possibly more.
Even if it is a retelling of the original trilogy, it will take several sequels to overwrite the original trilogy. Man of Steel 2 have been already announced.
It's an entirely new Superman being retold with a different story and plot.
This Superman doesn't have any of the feats of the previous movie Supermen.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Your "I perfer to consider character on the whole" doesn't explain anything, the only way for feats from the original movies would count is if MOS is actually a prequel.So, is the movie a prequel, or were you trying to sneak in invalid feats?
Originally posted by KingD19
Reboot does not = Retcon. But you can't use previous version feats with the rebooted version. It's not hard.
Sorry, I am sticking with canon.
Originally posted by Newjak
It's a reboot, it's not retconning anything, this is an entirely new Superman.Everything that came before in the other movies don't apply to MoS Superman.
However, on the whole, superman have a lot bigger story and many feats accordingly. Of-course, their are conflicts between depicted events and latest depictions are given preference over older ones but canon should be respected on the whole. Superman's earth influencing feat is canon until or unless the story is changed in the reboot trilogy. But then, superman canon rules should be defined by authoritarians as is the case in Star Wars.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSo I am dealing with fan(s) imposed declarations and norms here?
Sorry, I am sticking with canon.
MoS is canon, just like all the other Supermen movies are canon. But they're individual canon. They don't connect. So you can't use Superman's fight against Meteor Man as a feat for MoS, since MoS didn't fight him.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
They key word is "MoS" in your statement. Of-course, if I just consider "MoS" depiction then I am considering a restricted or limited portrayal (or incarnation) of superman character. This is just like if I only consider "SR" portrayal (or incarnation) of superman.However, on the whole, superman have a lot bigger story and many feats accordingly.
That doesn't matter. This is Zod from the new Man of Steel movie. Only feats from the Man of Steel movie count. How do you not get this?