Hancock vs. Zod

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You should watch the movie again; The skyscrapers began to fall apart around the World Engine. It was repeatedly striking the ground because its ultimate objective was to influence the inner Earth Core.

Should I tell you that how deep the inner Earth Core is?

Do not force me to get the movie and show some images from it that will shut every critic here.

Superman endured world engine's crushing pressure for several minutes and then destroyed it in the process after gathering his power. The feat trumps anything depicted in Hancock movie.

Skyscrapers began to fall around the world engine... and you don't think a locomotive hitting the building at full speed won't wreck it as well? The buildings were starting to get destroyed but that took repeated pulses from the world breaker. Yes, you need to watch the movie again.

And what has the deepness of the earth's core got to do with this? The world breaker wasn't cracking open the earth's core. There were two of them sending shock waves back and forth trying to terraform earth.

Fact is, there's no way to quantify the pressure exerted by the world breakers. We know it's strong, but we don't know how strong. Saying "Superman tanking the world breaker beats any feat of Hancock" is simply guess work since you don't know how strong it was. After all, sure cars and buildings were getting wrecked yet for some reason people were still able to run around.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Skyscrapers began to fall around the world engine... and you don't think a locomotive hitting the building at full speed won't wreck it as well? The buildings were starting to get destroyed but that took repeated pulses from the world breaker. Yes, you need to watch the movie again.

And what has the deepness of the earth's core got to do with this? The world breaker wasn't cracking open the earth's core. There were two of them sending shock waves back and forth trying to terraform earth.

Fact is, there's no way to quantify the pressure exerted by the world breakers. We know it's strong, but we don't know how strong. Saying "Superman tanking the world breaker beats any feat of Hancock" is simply guess work since you don't know how strong it was. After all, sure cars and buildings were getting wrecked yet for some reason people were still able to run around.

Also a lone train cannot demolish a gigantic building. It may pass through it at maximum. However, if a building has extremely think pillars then the train itself may get destroyed.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
People caught by the World Machine were killed instantly. Lot of casualties have not been shown in the movie for obvious reasons. Also being able to send shockwave through the entire earth mass should tell you something about the pressure exerted by the machine in question. The machine was also drilling; therefore repeated strikes.

Also a lone train cannot demolish a gigantic building. It may pass through it at maximum. However, if a building has extremely think pillars then the train itself may get destroyed.

And yet this still proves nothing because:

1. World machine power is not quantifiable

and

2. Superman struggled with the world machine. Hancock didn't budge an inch from the train. In short, Superman had to use nearly all his strength to fight the world breaker, Hancock didn't even break a sweat from the train.

^ i made the exact same argument on the first page. This dude is not trying to listen to reason.

Originally posted by marwash22
^ i made the exact same argument on the first page. This dude is not trying to listen to reason.

Yeah, I honestly don't know why I even bother to debate this as Superman isn't even in this fight. It's Zod vs. Hancock and I'm pretty sure Zod never tried his strength against the world breaker.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And yet this still proves nothing because:

1. World machine power is not quantifiable

and

2. Superman struggled with the world machine. Hancock didn't budge an inch from the train. In short, Superman had to use nearly all his strength to fight the world breaker, Hancock didn't even break a sweat from the train.

A single blow from World Machine results in oceanic water lifting up around it:

You realize how much power this is?

If a person is naive enough to think that a train matches World Machine in power and destructive potential then he or she needs medical attention.

Are you still claiming that it was destroying the Earth?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you still claiming that it was destroying the Earth?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Transformation of Earth would have resulted in immense destruction. A glimpse of this was given in the movie. The whole planet was to be re-done.

Again, Are you still claiming that it was destroying the Earth?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Are you still claiming that it was destroying the Earth?

The machines were capable of inflicting destruction on planetary scale. End of argument.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Are you a human or a bot who keeps parroting statements?

The machines were capable of inflicting destruction on planetary scale. End of argument.

You earlier claimed that it could destroy the Earth, I'm asking if that is still your claim.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You earlier claimed that it could destroy the Earth, I'm asking if that is still your claim.

Key point: World Machine >>>>>>>>>>>>> Train

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Who knows how much damage those machines would have inflicted but a scene in the movie indicates that destruction would have been on planetary scale with full eradication/annihilation of all life forms on Earth. I will recheck the movie once it arrives in master print on DVD. Till then, I am not engaging in this silly debate further.

Key point: World Machine >>>>>>>>>>>>> Train

I'll ask again, you claimed that it could destroy the Earth, is that still your stance?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'll ask again, you claimed that it could destroy the Earth, is that still your stance?

One more bot like question and consider yourself reported.

Everybody else seemed to be able to beat up Zod. I see no reason why Hancock wouldnt be able to either.

Originally posted by tkitna
Everybody else seemed to be able to beat up Zod. I see no reason why Hancock wouldnt be able to either.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Destruction on planetary scale is my stance.

One more bot like question and consider yourself reported.

So, you're admitting that your earlier claim of them being powerful enough to destroy the Earth was a lie?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The World Engines would have destroyed entire planet, if superman had not stopped them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you're admitting that your earlier claim of them being powerful enough to destroy the Earth was a lie?

Also, the World Machines were drilling through to influence Earth Crust. Who knows how much damage the shockwaves unleashed by it would have done to the surface of the planet. Very little is known about the World Machine at the moment so give me a break.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
So your argument is semantics? Earlier you were trying to argue that Train is more potent than World Machine.

You claimed it could destroy the planet, I'm just asking if that is still your stance.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You claimed it could destroy the planet, I'm just asking if that is still your stance.