Thor Vs Mr. Majestic

Started by dmills14 pages
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your word is dismissed as bullshit because it's not supported by anything resembling direct evidence and is usually contradicted by the comics. Here Mjolnir's hit is used to judge that Thor is Gladiator's equal in strength, something that's only ever done with fists usually, proving my point. That it does indeed happen.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Cosmic Axis was linked to the Universe long before Fraction:
This is a dud.

It's also known as the Celestial Axis, which has been shown to be connected to Earth's Universe:
Are you sure you can read bro? That harms your argument much more than you can imagine. Celestial axis was nothing but another name for earth's own axis' wobbling in modern science which also linked earth to asgard. Haha, you are terrible at this. What, you thought nobody would check the scan? Seriously, universe wasn't even mentioned in that scan.

Now shut up.
Tsk, Tsk.

😬

Why do number of appearances matter? If you believe Majestic is stronger, let's discuss this is in a more direct environment.

Because Thor has much more stuff to pull through.

Let's assume for a fact that Geoff Johns read all of those comics (Ridiculous but it's a hypothetical), what does it say about your theory when Prime's powers work like Post Crisis Kryptonians?
When did his powers work like post crisis kryptonians? I don't think I've ever seen superman fully recharged from a ray of sunlight.
And that your assumption is not even remotely hinted?

You said:

Implying it was only limited to Asgard, which is why I clarified, the Earth as well.

Well earth comes into nine asgardian realms too. I said it wasn't multiversal or some shit which you were implying.

You said:

It's so sad that I have to threaten you with a report to stop you from making stuff up.

Well, you still has provided any proof that mjolnir's added striking power was somehow negated or even that Thor compared mjolnir to his fist. Another character feeling mjolnir's striking power and then comparing THAT to his strength isn't a proof.

Your own words:

Why do I have to keep quoting you? You denied the simple possibility of Thor's fists rivaling Mjolnir.

Cool. I concede on this point that there is a single statement of Thor's fists rivaling mjolnir. Happy? How does this proves your point that mjolnir's striking feats can be applied to thor's strength majority of times?

Again, you said:

You denied it ever happening, period. Despite their being numerous instances that imply Thor's fists rival Mjolnir.

I was wrong on that account too, I guess. There aren't multiple instances of that however, as you posted only one instance of such.

If it's that obvious, there should be some kind of evidence to support this opinion.
Why would I prove a negative, "Prove majestic's flight didn't played a part in him pushing the planets"? The burden is upon you.

Your word is dismissed as bullshit because it's not supported by anything resembling direct evidence and is usually contradicted by the comics.
And yours is dismissed because you post meaningless scans.
Here Mjolnir's hit is used to judge that Thor is Gladiator's equal in strength, something that's only ever done with fists usually, proving my point. That it does indeed happen.
Still waiting for the proof that mjolnir's striking power was negated in that instance.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Sad that most of that post is me quoting Abhil to remind him what he said a few pages ago. Not sure why I even bothered replying.

You don't get to ignore evidence because it's inconvenient. But I'll remember this complete disregard of anything post-comic in future debates. You'll of course ignore this line of reasoning when it no longer favors you but whatever.

And criteria met, now run along.


Haha, this is getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is a dud.

Why is it a dud, I'm confused? You wanted something pre-World Engine linking the Cosmic Axis to the Universe, there you go:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you sure you can read bro? That harms your argument much more than you can imagine. Celestial axis was nothing but another name for earth's own axis' wobbling in modern science which also linked earth to asgard. Haha, you are terrible at this. What, you thought nobody would check the scan? Seriously, universe wasn't even mentioned in that scan.

facepalm

What? How does that harm my argument? In that scan, the Celestial Axis is linked to the World Tree. Now, I was going to dig for a scan that indicates the Universe spins around the Celestial Axis but at this point, it clearly doesn't matter as you'll ignore all evidence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Tsk, Tsk.

Because Thor has much more stuff to pull through.

So what? You made a Majestic vs. Thor thread and have no trouble arguing for pages. If you think Thor's appearances net him some kind of unfair advantage why even make the thread? Either you think Majestic is stronger then Thor or you don't. If you do, battle zone, less number of appearances is a ridiculously poor excuse.

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did his powers work like post crisis kryptonians? I don't think I've ever seen superman fully recharged from a ray of sunlight.

Actually, Prime was nearly whole when the light struck him and was bathing in the Sun's light for a noticeably amount of time while he waited for the Sinestro Corp. That aside, you yourself argued that Pre-Crisis Kryptonian's don't store solar energy like Post Crisis Kryptonian's do. Again, I can quote you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well earth comes into nine asgardian realms too. I said it wasn't multiversal or some shit which you were implying.

Well, you still has provided any proof that mjolnir's added striking power was somehow negated or even that Thor compared mjolnir to his fist. Another character feeling mjolnir's striking power and then comparing THAT to his strength isn't a proof.

I wasn't implying anything, it was outright stated in the comics, you just simply chose to ignore it.

It is to me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cool. I concede on this point that there is a single statement of Thor's fists rivaling mjolnir. Happy? How does this proves your point that mjolnir's striking feats can be applied to thor's strength majority of times?

I was wrong on that account too, I guess. There aren't multiple instances of that however, as you posted only one instance of such.

I never said that it applied to the majority of times, have you not learned yet that lying is bad?

There are multiple instances where Thor triumphs over opponents with his fists after putting Mjolnir away. For example, Kang's force field has withstood Mjolnir on multiple occasions and yet Thor nearly breaks through it:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang1.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang2.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang3.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang4.jpg.html

You don't seem to understand my point, I'm not arguing that Thor's fists > Mjolnir. My entire point is that very often, his fists are interchangeable with Mjolnir. Whether he uses his hands or the hammer to beat away at the opponent, the outcome will be the same.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why would I prove a negative, "Prove majestic's flight didn't played a part in him pushing the planets"? The burden is upon you.

It was you who said that you already proved Majestic's flight has no direct correlation to his strength:

Were you just lying?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And yours is dismissed because you post meaningless scans. Still waiting for the proof that mjolnir's striking power was negated in that instance.

Meaningless scans? How about we battle zone then or get a mod ruling on our stance?

Why would Mjolnir's striking power be negated? That makes no sense. My entire point is that Mjolnir's power wasn't negated and Gladiator still believed that Thor was his equal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, this is getting ridiculous.

Not really.

You're are literally ignoring evidence back to back and refuse to enter a battle zone to debate this point where you can't just troll for pages. It's cowardly but it provides entertainment which is why I've bothered to reply this much.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why is it a dud, I'm confused? You wanted something pre-World Engine linking the Cosmic Axis to the Universe, there you go:
Because I can't see it.

facepalm

What? How does that harm my argument?

Because it plainly says celestial axis is nothing but a wobbling in earth's axis which connects earth to asgard. If we consider this celestial axis to what Thor manipulated, world engine feat is planetary at its best.
In that scan, the Celestial Axis is linked to the World Tree.
We all know that.
Now, I was going to dig for a scan that indicates the Universe spins around the Celestial Axis but at this point, it clearly doesn't matter as you'll ignore all evidence.
Post the scan and then talk. Irony abounds.

So what? You made a Majestic vs. Thor thread and have no trouble arguing for pages.
4 pages.
If you think Thor's appearances net him some kind of unfair advantage why even make the thread?
It does.
Either you think Majestic is stronger then Thor or you don't. If you do, battle zone, less number of appearances is a ridiculously poor excuse.
No, its not. Its like me asking for a battlezone against a random Thor villain who is considered stronger than Thor and who appeared in a few issues like Pagan against Majestic, Of course he would lose.

Actually, Prime was nearly whole when the light struck him
Not remotely true. He was noticeably weakened and was being overpowered by that group of heroes. Then a ray of sunlight hits his hand and he overpowers that whole group.
and was bathing in the Sun's light for a noticeably amount of time while he waited for the Sinestro Corp.
Which means little as he was already full powered by that ray of sunlight.
That aside, you yourself argued that Pre-Crisis Kryptonian's don't store solar energy like Post Crisis Kryptonian's do.
Yes, they didn't. Prime was full powered by a ray of sunlight because it activated his dwindling latent powers again. PC kryptonians tended to lose their powers gradually after they were removed from sun and instantly regain them as soon as sunlight touched them.
Again, I can quote you.
That you can.

I wasn't implying anything, it was outright stated in the comics, you just simply chose to ignore it.
Not at all. You are the one who is demanding proof for the most obvious things. Now I'm doing the same thing and its ignoring things?

It is to me.
Well of course it is.

I never said that it applied to the majority of times, have you not learned yet that lying is bad?
Then why are you arguing about it?

There are multiple instances where Thor triumphs over opponents with his fists after putting Mjolnir away. For example, Kang's force field has withstood Mjolnir on multiple occasions and yet Thor nearly breaks through it:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang1.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang2.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang3.jpg.html
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/DefeatsKang4.jpg.html
I can't see the scans. Did it happen in the same issue that mjolnir failed to break through the shield? Because I recall mjolnir breaking through Kang's shield like paper on several occasions.

You don't seem to understand my point, I'm not arguing that Thor's fists > Mjolnir.
I understand it completely, thank you very much.
My entire point is that very often, his fists are interchangeable with Mjolnir.
Of course not. You already said its not for majority. Even I can post literally dozen of scans to every one of yours negating this point.
Whether he uses his hands or the hammer to beat away at the opponent, the outcome will be the same.
Tell that to hulk and dozens of other characters who Thor has fought without mjolnir and then had to resort to mjolnir to level the field.

It was you who said that you already proved Majestic's flight has no direct correlation to his strength:

Were you just lying?

I never said anything like that. Your accusations are getting tiresome.

Meaningless scans?
15 years later after the feat, anyone?
How about we battle zone then or get a mod ruling on our stance?
The battlezone isn't possible between these two characters. I'm fine with any mod ruling.

Why would Mjolnir's striking power be negated? That makes no sense.
Then you agree that Gladiator felt Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power?
My entire point is that Mjolnir's power wasn't negated and Gladiator still believed that Thor was his equal.
So Gladiator thought Thor's strength was equal to his own after feeling Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power? How does that proves anything in your favor?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because I can't see it.

Why didn't you just say so?


http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/sp/2cbbc893dc7941323aa950870ce18cbb/Quasar02_17.jpg

Glad we have this settled now, the Cosmic Axis being linked to the Universe was introduced far earlier then Fraction. Your silly condition is met.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it plainly says celestial axis is nothing but a wobbling in earth's axis which connects earth to asgard. If we consider this celestial axis to what Thor manipulated, world engine feat is planetary at its best. We all know that. Post the scan and then talk. Irony abounds.

No, it says that the Celestial Axis is what modern science mistakes for the wobbling in Earth's axis but it's actually much more then that. Which is why it's connected to the World Tree and ultimately the very same thing.

I'm looking but why do I have a feeling when I post the scan, you won't be able to see it? And ultimately this is all unnecessary, Eon already confirmed the Cosmic Axis being Universal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
4 pages. It does. No, its not. Its like me asking for a battlezone against a random Thor villain who is considered stronger than Thor and who appeared in a few issues like Pagan against Majestic, Of course he would lose.

That's an extremely pathetic excuse. If you're arguing that a character is stronger, you must believe there is sufficient evidence to support that position. The simple fact that you made this thread indicates that to be the case. What hilariously poor reasoning.

So you admit that you can't support Majestic being stronger or defend that stance?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not remotely true. He was noticeably weakened and was being overpowered by that group of heroes. Then a ray of sunlight hits his hand and he overpowers that whole group. Which means little as he was already full powered by that ray of sunlight. Yes, they didn't. Prime was full powered by a ray of sunlight because it activated his dwindling latent powers again. PC kryptonians tended to lose their powers gradually after they were removed from sun and instantly regain them as soon as sunlight touched them.

That you can.

Prime himself says that he's nearly whole again:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs3.jpg

And he spend significant time bathing in Sunlight before he reached the Earth:
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/kick1.jpg.html
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/kick2.jpg
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/kickass3.jpg.html
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/kickass4.jpg

He wasn't in some darkened room where some light suddenly repowered him. You yourself described Kryptonian powers from before the crisis as abilities simply activated by Sunlight, having nothing to do with storing Solar energy and so on like Prime or Post-Crisis Kryptonians.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He only need a ray of sunlight to fully recharge himself. Prime like PC kryptonians don't store solar energy in their cells, they awaken their latent powers by the yellow sun and lighter gravity of earth. The longer they stay away from sun, the weaker they become. There is nothing for Thor to absorb there.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581441&pagenumber=18

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not at all. You are the one who is demanding proof for the most obvious things. Now I'm doing the same thing and its ignoring things?

Well of course it is.

Then why are you arguing about it?

The World Tree was literally connected to an infinite array of Universes, a Megaverse. If it's so obvious and according to you, proven already, then post the evidence. If we're both being difficult, at least I can support my stances with something other then guess work.

Because you denied it's very existence. Getting tired of quoting you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I can't see the scans. Did it happen in the same issue that mjolnir failed to break through the shield? Because I recall mjolnir breaking through Kang's shield like paper on several occasions.

What is wrong with your computer? Does it just block scans that are inconvenient to your stance automatically? Yes, the force field took a hit from Mjolnir before put away the hammer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I understand it completely, thank you very much. Of course not. You already said its not for majority. Even I can post literally dozen of scans to every one of yours negating this point. Tell that to hulk and dozens of other characters who Thor has fought without mjolnir and then had to resort to mjolnir to level the field.

The majority does not mean my point isn't represented often enough.

Really? For every instance I present, you can post dozens of scans? Want to start a separate thread then, that is a bold claim I'd like to see you support.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I never said anything like that. Your accusations are getting tiresome.

Here you go:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just proved.

How many times are you going to deny things? It's getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by abhilegend
15 years later after the feat, anyone? The battlezone isn't possible between these two characters. I'm fine with any mod ruling.

Then you agree that Gladiator felt Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power? So Gladiator thought Thor's strength was equal to his own after feeling Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power? How does that proves anything in your favor?

You have no problem posting scans from to influence feats at all. Is this a position that you are permanently taking?

Because Majestic has less appearances? Lol, so what? Superman has a lot more appearances then Thor, do you see anyone b*tching about that? Hilarious.

Alright, I'll PM Pr.

Hmm? How is that difficult to understand? If Mjolnir worked like it should, his conclusion would be that with the hammer, his opponent can simulate his strength, not that he's a physical peer/equal.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why didn't you just say so?
I did say it was a dud, didn't I?


http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/sp/2cbbc893dc7941323aa950870ce18cbb/Quasar02_17.jpg

Glad we have this settled now, the Cosmic Axis being linked to the Universe was introduced far earlier then Fraction. Your silly condition is met.[/quote] That cosmic axis is defined as Eternity bro. Do you even read your scans? "I'm offspring of eternity, I'm offspring of cosmic axis". Any proof that this "cosmic axis" is the same as the "celestial axis" which connects Earth to Asgard? You are taking two different writers views on two different concepts and mashing them as together to make something which doesn't exist.

No, it says that the Celestial Axis is what modern science mistakes for the wobbling in Earth's axis but it's actually much more then that.
Which was later stated as it being connected to asgard. Not that it was connected to the 616 universe as you claimed.
Which is why it's connected to the World Tree and ultimately the very same thing.
Which you claimed that World tree and celestial axis are one and the same, but that's not true going by that scan. Celestial axis connects earth to asgard and world tree but its not world tree.

I'm looking but why do I have a feeling when I post the scan, you won't be able to see it?
I could send you the screencap if I would be unable to see it, OK?
And ultimately this is all unnecessary, Eon already confirmed the Cosmic Axis being Universal.
Prove that its the same "celestial axis" you keep referencing.

That's an extremely pathetic excuse.
Really? If I wanted I can prove superman is stronger than anybody by that reasoning who haven't lifted half of infinity. Do you want to do a battlezone on that?
If you're arguing that a character is stronger, you must believe there is sufficient evidence to support that position.
I made this thread to gauge average levels of both characters.
The simple fact that you made this thread indicates that to be the case. What hilariously poor reasoning.
Not really.

So you admit that you can't support Majestic being stronger or defend that stance?
No. I've yet to see thor being able to push planets around in this thread. The best you've done is post an unquantifiable feat and post meaningless scans in futility to prove something out of it.

Prime himself says that he's nearly whole again:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/25/1539595/primvs3.jpg
File doesn't exist. That's what you get from posting scans from a respect thread without reading them. Oh rage.

And he spend significant time bathing in Sunlight before he reached the Earth:
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/kick1.jpg.html
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/kick2.jpg
http://s219.photobucket.com/user/Superman-Prime_Respect/media/kickass3.jpg.html
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/kickass4.jpg
Who cares? He was explicitly depowered because of night and you even trying to argue otherwise is just laughable.

He wasn't in some darkened room where some light suddenly repowered him.
He was explicitly depowered before he got repowered by night ending and just a ray of sunlight.
You yourself described Kryptonian powers from before the crisis as abilities simply activated by Sunlight, having nothing to do with storing Solar energy and so on like Prime or Post-Crisis Kryptonians.
Do you really think a ray of sunlight gave prime enough charge to overpower that group of heroes? That whole fight happened at night and it explicitly depowered prime.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581441&pagenumber=18

You already proved you can search bro.

The World Tree was literally connected to an infinite array of Universes, a Megaverse.
15 years later you mean?
If it's so obvious and according to you, proven already, then post the evidence.
Evidence of what exactly rage?
If we're both being difficult, at least I can support my stances with something other then guess work.
You mean wrong scans that don't even support your stance?

Because you denied it's very existence. Getting tired of quoting you.
Really?

What is wrong with your computer?
That brother is a loaded question.
Does it just block scans that are inconvenient to your stance automatically?
What kind of question is this? Do you want me to send the screencaps where I can't see the scan? I am having real problem with photobucket.
Yes, the force field took a hit from Mjolnir before put away the hammer.
And there was absolutely no damage whatsoever with that hammer shot because more often than not force-fields accumulate damage and then break.

The majority does not mean my point isn't represented often enough.
How often? Has this been ever referenced anywhere where there is major feat for mjolnir's strike to consider that Thor could've done that with bare hands?

Really? For every instance I present, you can post dozens of scans? Want to start a separate thread then, that is a bold claim I'd like to see you support.
Not so hard when all you've posted is one or two instances of such. My point is that to even consider that Thor's bare fists can do as much damage as mjolnir, there must be at least 20% of evidence that thor's fists hit as hard as mjolnir. As it is I've seen more scans of Wonder man's fists compared to mjolnir than I've seen of thor.

Here you go:

How many times are you going to deny things? It's getting ridiculous.

Did you just fabricated a post to accuse me? I never said that "just proved" in that quote. WTF man? Where did I said "just proved" in that quote?

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Because I can't see it.

Because it plainly says celestial axis is nothing but a wobbling in earth's axis which connects earth to asgard. If we consider this celestial axis to what Thor manipulated, world engine feat is planetary at its best. We all know that. Post the scan and then talk. Irony abounds.

4 pages. It does. No, its not. Its like me asking for a battlezone against a random Thor villain who is considered stronger than Thor and who appeared in a few issues like Pagan against Majestic, Of course he would lose.

Not remotely true. He was noticeably weakened and was being overpowered by that group of heroes. Then a ray of sunlight hits his hand and he overpowers that whole group. Which means little as he was already full powered by that ray of sunlight. Yes, they didn't. Prime was full powered by a ray of sunlight because it activated his dwindling latent powers again. PC kryptonians tended to lose their powers gradually after they were removed from sun and instantly regain them as soon as sunlight touched them. That you can.

Not at all. You are the one who is demanding proof for the most obvious things. Now I'm doing the same thing and its ignoring things?

Well of course it is.

Then why are you arguing about it?

I can't see the scans. Did it happen in the same issue that mjolnir failed to break through the shield? Because I recall mjolnir breaking through Kang's shield like paper on several occasions.

I understand it completely, thank you very much. Of course not. You already said its not for majority. Even I can post literally dozen of scans to every one of yours negating this point. Tell that to hulk and dozens of other characters who Thor has fought without mjolnir and then had to resort to mjolnir to level the field.

I never said anything like that. Your accusations are getting tiresome.

15 years later after the feat, anyone? The battlezone isn't possible between these two characters. I'm fine with any mod ruling.

Then you agree that Gladiator felt Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power? So Gladiator thought Thor's strength was equal to his own after feeling Thor's strength+mjolnir's striking power? How does that proves anything in your favor?

I should just straight up report you for this. I've lost any respect for you I had at this point.

You have no problem posting scans from to influence feats at all. Is this a position that you are permanently taking?
Yes.

Because Majestic has less appearances? Lol, so what? Superman has a lot more appearances then Thor, do you see anyone b*tching about that?
Superman doesn't have a lot more appearances than thor, not post-crisis. Even then I've seen people bitching about superman's appearances.
Hilarious.
Your stunt wasn't hilarious though.

Alright, I'll PM Pr.
Good.

Hmm? How is that difficult to understand? If Mjolnir worked like it should, his conclusion would be that with the hammer, his opponent can simulate his strength, not that he's a physical peer/equal.
And how does you reached at that conclusion that he didn't took the hammer into the consideration. If somebody attacked you with a hammer and you think that "Whoa he hits as hard as me". the hammer played no part in your conclusion?

Here is where I said "just proved" only time in this thread and that was regarding World Tree's weight/size and it was said in jest.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Am I? I dismissed that because its not quantifiable. The only given scan of World tree shows its not even as big as earth. Really?

Lawlz.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
[B]Yup. The World Tree isn't potent due to it's size, it's the Cosmic Axis of the Multiverse, it holds creation together (Like Atlas does for the Olympians). And Thor did it while weakened. He spun the engine, reversing time and Ragnarok, overpowering the tree's will. Definitely not more impressive then moving a planet because we can't attach a number to it.

Prove it then.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]It is a cosmic axis for nine realms which are actually pocket dimensions. Here is its actual size as shown on panel and not speculation or something.

Impressive isn't it? FYI, Ragnarok is a simple Asgard related phenomena and not multiversal.
[b]Just proved.

😛

facepalm @ rage. WTF dude?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That cosmic axis is defined as Eternity bro. Do you even read your scans? "I'm offspring of eternity, I'm offspring of cosmic axis". Any proof that this "cosmic axis" is the same as the "celestial axis" which connects Earth to Asgard? You are taking two different writers views on two different concepts and mashing them as together to make something which doesn't exist.

facepalm

He's the offspring of Eternity, Infinity and the Cosmic Axis. He defines all of them differently. Eternity =/= Cosmic Axis, he even literally defines the two differently. Eternity is the personification of the life force of the Universe, the Cosmic Axis is around which the Universe Spins.

The Cosmic Axis is the World Tree, what the f*ck are you even talking about? Here, a pre-Fraction scan calling the World Tree the Cosmic Axis:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Which was later stated as it being connected to asgard. Not that it was connected to the 616 universe as you claimed. Which you claimed that World tree and celestial axis are one and the same, but that's not true going by that scan. Celestial axis connects earth to asgard and world tree but its not world tree.

That's another scan, the point was to connect the World Tree to the Celestial Axis, I've made that clear. Yes, it wasn't in that scan but it seems to evolve into the same concept at some point, although I'm not sure where, I'll post scans later.

But like I said, this is all irrelevant. Eon already pointed out that Cosmic Axis is what the Universe spins around.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I could send you the screencap if I would be unable to see it, OK? Prove that its the same "celestial axis" you keep referencing.

Really? If I wanted I can prove superman is stronger than anybody by that reasoning who haven't lifted half of infinity. Do you want to do a battlezone on that? I made this thread to gauge average levels of both characters. Not really.

You want me to prove that the Cosmic Axis that Eon referred to is the World Tree? Okay, I posted the scan above, as if the World Tree wasn't referred to the Cosmic Axis on numerous occasions. Including in the Warren Ellis arc.

How does that make any sense? And if you wanted to gauge average levels, then why did you immediately resort to Majestic moving planets the moment Thor gave Thor the edge?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. I've yet to see thor being able to push planets around in this thread. The best you've done is post an unquantifiable feat and post meaningless scans in futility to prove something out of it.

File doesn't exist. That's what you get from posting scans from a respect thread without reading them. Oh rage.

We can always battlezone.

What? The link works fine for me, the problem is on your end:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who cares? He was explicitly depowered because of night and you even trying to argue otherwise is just laughable.

He was explicitly depowered before he got repowered by night ending and just a ray of sunlight. Do you really think a ray of sunlight gave prime enough charge to overpower that group of heroes? That whole fight happened at night and it explicitly depowered prime.

You already proved you can search bro.

He almost whole, most likely since he was sun bathing for a while as we saw.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not so hard when all you've posted is one or two instances of such. My point is that to even consider that Thor's bare fists can do as much damage as mjolnir, there must be at least 20% of evidence that thor's fists hit as hard as mjolnir. As it is I've seen more scans of Wonder man's fists compared to mjolnir than I've seen of thor.

Did you just fabricated a post to accuse me? I never said that "just proved" in that quote. WTF man? Where did I said "just proved" in that quote?

I should just straight up report you for this. I've lost any respect for you I had at this point.

So you want to make the thread? I can post multiple instances.

facepalm Read the thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes.

Good.

And how does you reached at that conclusion that he didn't took the hammer into the consideration. If somebody attacked you with a hammer and you think that "Whoa he hits as hard as me". the hammer played no part in your conclusion?

Because he didn't mention Mjolnir and instead of referring to striking power, he said strength equality? If he said this being hits as hard as me, I wouldn't bring it up because there's no proof that he separated Thor from Mjolnir.

Going to start just cutting out all your red herrings. It's getting ridiculous.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Here is where I said "just proved" only time in this thread and that was regarding World Tree's weight/size and it was said in jest

facepalm @ rage. WTF dude?

The post before the first you quoted was me also jokingly asking about the Majestic strength/flight correlation and you replied as "lawlz".

Well I'm not replying to anything you say from now on. Who knows when you're going to edit my post and call me a liar.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The post before the first you quoted was me also jokingly asking about the Majestic strength/flight correlation and you replied as "lawlz".

The post you linked is on this same page not on the first page where I said that. At least lie with some dignity.

Where did I edit your post? You might not care about your reputation as it's already in the toilet but I do.

Make a claim like that again without linking me to what you're talking about, and I seriously will report you. No joking this time.

What kind of drugs are you on?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just proved.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581587&pagenumber=2

Page 2. Fourth post from the top.

Also concession accepted. I like how the moment you are presented with a scan you can't dismiss you suddenly don't want to ever reply.

😂

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where did I edit your post? You might not care about your reputation as it's already in the toilet but I do.

Make a claim like that again without linking me to what you're talking about, and I seriously will report you. No joking this time.

What kind of drugs are you on?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581587&pagenumber=2

Page 2. Fourth post from the top.

Also concession accepted. I like how the moment you are presented with a scan you can't dismiss you suddenly don't want to ever reply.

😂


Hey jerk, here is where your post directs when its clicked upon.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=581587&from=thread&pagenumber=5#post14377748

This is where your second quote directs

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581587&pagenumber=2#post14373504

Found something different or should I call pr here?

Lol, took me a while to figure out what the hell you were talking about. You clicked on the "quote: post" which directed you to the same page as this right? That's because I copy and pasted:
[QUOTE=14377748]Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]

For the entire post. But I immediately clarified that the post I was quoting was from the second page, the fourth post down. So why are you still so confused?

Again, the post I linked to is on the second page, fourth post down:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581587&pagenumber=2

I didn't edit shit, and if you still don't get that, well, that's your problem. Please do, because you seem to be having difficulty grasping what I'm saying, perhaps he can help you understand.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, took me a while to figure out what the hell you were talking about. You clicked on the "quote: post" which directed you to the same page as this right? That's because I copy and pasted:
[QUOTE=14377748]Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]

For the entire post. But I immediately clarified that the post I was quoting was from the second page, the fourth post down. So why are you still so confused?

Again, the post I linked to is on the second page, fourth post down:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=581587&pagenumber=2

I didn't edit shit, and if you still don't get that, well, that's your problem. Please do, because you seem to be having difficulty grasping what I'm saying, perhaps he can help you understand.


That's quite a bit of stretch but I can believe that. You still took a post where I was talking about World tree and tried to pass it as if I was talking about majestic's flight and call me a liar upon it too. This conversation is over. Also I would take a BZ upon this discussion after I end curry's tourney. At this point I don't trust a single thing you say and I think you do that to me too. This would just go ugly if we continue this discussion. See ya.

What are we supposed to be looking at in those links?

I'll be honest, it's probably going to just be confusing nonsense to you dmills. I had to take time to figure out what the miscommunication as myself.

In short: He clicked on the "quote: post" part that sent him to a different post then the one I quoted but I clarified in a future post with a direct link.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's quite a bit of stretch but I can believe that. You still took a post where I was talking about World tree and tried to pass it as if I was talking about majestic's flight and call me a liar upon it too. This conversation is over. Also I would take a BZ upon this discussion after I end curry's tourney. At this point I don't trust a single thing you say and I think you do that to me too. This would just go ugly if we continue this discussion. See ya.

Why is it a stretch? That's how the quoting system works. And I linked the post I quoted, so it's not as if I made it up or something. 😬

If you were talking about the World Tree then you need to be more specific. I asked about Majestic, you said lawlz, I said prove it, you said proved it. That's why we reply to different parts of a post in different lines, so we know what we're talking about. And I called you a liar because as far as I was concerned you were.

Okay. Why wouldn't you trust a single thing I say? I always back up my stuff with scans and sources. Most people would agree with that assessment of me.

I just find it convenient that you gave up just as you had a scan you couldn't dismiss. mhmm

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'll be honest, it's probably going to just be confusing nonsense to you dmills. I had to take time to figure out what the miscommunication as myself.

In short: He clicked on the "quote: post" part that sent him to a different post then the one I quoted but I clarified in a future post with a direct link.

Why is it a stretch? That's how the quoting system works. And I linked the post I quoted, so it's not as if I made it up or something. 😬

If you were talking about the World Tree then you need to be more specific. I asked about Majestic, you said lawlz, I said prove it, you said proved it. That's why we reply to different parts of a post in different lines, so we know what we're talking about. And I called you a liar because as far as I was concerned you were.

Okay. Why wouldn't you trust a single thing I say? I always back up my stuff with scans and sources. Most people would agree with that assessment of me.

I just find it convenient that you gave up just as you had a scan you couldn't dismiss. mhmm


You had to have the last word, don't you?

LOl. This entire argument is becoming a jumbled mess tbh. I literally had to go back and reread everything just to find the original point of contention between the two of you lol.