Originally posted by ODG
A common misconception. Professor Hulk was not weaker. He was stronger.
The main reason Im mostly told as to why prof hulk is weaker s because when he gets mad he turns into mindless Banner. I see it as a weakness but Hulk didn't 'hulk out' and loose his cool as easily as Banner so it being a giant chink In his armor seems a bit much. Also wasnt he one of the bigger hulks?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not at all. He was intelligent and had a base/calm strength level that was pretty close if not equal to Superman/Thor and could even get stronger.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He was equal to thor at base level and thus weaker than superman. He doesn't have the feats of savage hulk going much higher than Thor level though.
I'm not of the opinion that Superman is automatically always > Thor in strength. I think their respective fights indicate that it's his likely strength level.
Actually, Merged Hulk was always outperforming Savage Hulk on average, if you want a list, I can probably PM Liam. I don't think he has Hulk's highest end feats but Merged Hulk was mostly under PAD and then when he appeared again, evolved into Green Scar. The intention was clear to me.
Originally posted by SevenShacklesHim turning into Savage Banner was the exception, not the rule. And it tended to happen when he saw Betty shot/die.
The main reason Im mostly told as to why prof hulk is weaker s because when he gets mad he turns into mindless Banner. I see it as a weakness but Hulk didn't 'hulk out' and loose his cool as easily as Banner so it being a giant chink In his armor seems a bit much. Also wasnt he one of the bigger hulks?
Originally posted by ODG
Him turning into Savage Banner was the exception, not the rule. And it tended to happen when he saw Betty shot/die.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not of the opinion that Superman is automatically always > Thor in strength. I think their respective fights indicate that it's his likely strength level.Actually, Merged Hulk was always outperforming Savage Hulk on average, if you want a list, I can probably PM Liam. I don't think he has Hulk's highest end feats but Merged Hulk was mostly under PAD and then when he appeared again, evolved into Green Scar. The intention was clear to me.
He was outperforming savage hulk's average feats. He doesn't have his higher end feats like beating the shit out of original Abomination or oneshotting a guy who knocked out thing by a finger-flick by getting angry. His base was higher but his anger-strength dynamic was a bit lower than savage.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Well you wouldn't be a thorbag if you don't think so. I can BZ you at that topic any time though. Wanna do a BZ on that?He was outperforming savage hulk's average feats. He doesn't have his higher end feats like beating the shit out of original Abomination or oneshotting a guy who knocked out thing by a finger-flick by getting angry. His base was higher but his anger-strength dynamic was a bit lower than savage.
Hmm? You want to battle zone that Superman isn't always stronger then Thor? 😂
I'm not your biggest fan, but isn't that a loaded question for you?
I don't think Merged Hulk ever failed in a situation that Savage Hulk succeeded. He actually systematically outperformed him against similar opponents whenever he faced them. I don't think he has any high end feats like destroying the asteroid as Grey Hulk or punching through a time storm but we both know that those aren't necessary. I honestly don't remember any scene where he had trouble getting angry pre-Savage Banner. He did channel the power of the Reborn Universe and shit though as a high end feats IIRC.
I always thought Prof. Hulk was supposed to be far superior, on average, to Savage Hulk. Though incapable of Savage Hulk's almost instantaneous amping and the associated high-end feats. That he was far too "cold" and inhibited by the domination of Banner to cut loose.
I thought that was what was being illustrated by Jean Grey shutting Banner down for Mindless Hulk to smash Onslaught.
Savage Hulk is the only Hulk, that would go toe to toe with Green Scar or Maestro, imo.
The others would eventually reach a limit or be over-taken by Savage Hulk's ridiculously fast amping.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He did channel the power of the Reborn Universe and shit though as a high end feats IIRC.
Iirc, the whole universe's energies basically flowed through him and used his body as a jamb to open a doorway between that universe and 616.
Probably the highest, high-end feat of any sub-Abstract, imo.
Originally posted by SevenShacklesIt didn't happen often. Those people don't know what they're talking about. And Mindless Hulk engaged Mercy and Mr. Hyde on an airplane once. And he didn't revert to Savage Banner there. There wasn't even a Banner persona as it was in Franklin's pocket universe.
I only have one memory of it, him on a plane with some woman and mr.Hyde. I have no clue how much it really factored in but ppl like to talk about it like it happened often. 🙄
Originally posted by ODG
It didn't happen often. Those people don't know what they're talking about. And Mindless Hulk engaged Mercy and Mr. Hyde on an airplane once. And he didn't revert to Savage Banner there. There wasn't even a Banner persona as it was in Franklin's pocket universe.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hmm? You want to battle zone that Superman isn't always stronger then Thor? 😂I'm not your biggest fan, but isn't that a loaded question for you?
I don't think Merged Hulk ever failed in a situation that Savage Hulk succeeded. He actually systematically outperformed him against similar opponents whenever he faced them. I don't think he has any high end feats like destroying the asteroid as Grey Hulk or punching through a time storm but we both know that those aren't necessary. I honestly don't remember any scene where he had trouble getting angry pre-Savage Banner. He did channel the power of the Reborn Universe and shit though as a high end feats IIRC.
Point me to the feat where he trashed someone like original abomination then. I wasn't talking about space-cheese, just character fights.
Originally posted by abhilegendThat is a silly idea for a battlezone.
No, that superman is always stronger than Thor. You claimed that Superman>Thor isn't always true.Point me to the feat where he trashed someone like original abomination then. I wasn't talking about space-cheese, just character fights.