Sundipped Superman VS The Avengers

Started by -Pr-17 pages

When did I say I ranked Diana as a high herald?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
so the probes which tore the JLA apart, you'd rank it mid to high bit still rank Diana high?
Probes were fodder.

Not all the time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not all the time.
When it counts these kinds of enemies always are.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When it counts these kinds of enemies always are.

"these kinds of enemies" don't usually beat entire teams of superheroes by their lonesome.

Fodder is something else entirely. I get that you really want to downplay them, but they have the feats to make them easily heralds, and should be treated as such.

Originally posted by -Pr-
"these kinds of enemies" don't usually beat entire teams of superheroes by their lonesome.

Fodder is something else entirely. I get that you really want to downplay them, but they have the feats to make them easily heralds, and should be treated as such.

Its like any enemy once we found out this was just a probe their formidability went downhill. When games on the line they were slaughtered just like random green lanterns.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its like any enemy once we found out this was just a probe their formidability went downhill. When games on the line they were slaughtered just like random green lanterns.

the only time they were ever "slaughtered" was when they went up against the team of HP/DD and a non-holding back Superman.

It's not even remotely the same thing.

And again, no-name Green Lanterns don't beat the Justice League by themselves.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the only time they were ever "slaughtered" was when they went up against the team of HP/DD and a non-holding back Superman.

It's not even remotely the same thing.

And again, no-name Green Lanterns don't beat the Justice League by themselves.

When they became probes its obvious how they were going to be when it mattered. Just like one Alien in a movie is a big deal but Aliens go down easily.

Same principle.

Why is this about Owaw Superman? I mean it just says sundipped superman

And correct me if I'm wrong but pis/cis don't alter personality, I don't see anywhere where it says bloodlusted

Like I said I might be wrong

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why is this about Owaw Superman? I mean it just says sundipped superman

And correct me if I'm wrong but pis/cis don't alter personality, I don't see anywhere where it says bloodlusted

Like I said I might be wrong

Good points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When they became probes its obvious how they were going to be when it mattered. Just like one Alien in a movie is a big deal but Aliens go down easily.

Same principle.

Not really. 😬

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why is this about Owaw Superman? I mean it just says sundipped superman

And correct me if I'm wrong but pis/cis don't alter personality, I don't see anywhere where it says bloodlusted

Like I said I might be wrong

the picture the OP tried to link to, was OWAW Superman. It was reposted on page 2, iirc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not really. 😬

the picture the OP tried to link to, was OWAW Superman. It was reposted on page 2, iirc.

Yes, it is really. That's how storytellers usually go about doing it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it is really. That's how storytellers usually go about doing it.

No, but feel free to try and prove that they're fodder, given their feats.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why is this about Owaw Superman? I mean it just says sundipped superman

And correct me if I'm wrong but pis/cis don't alter personality, I don't see anywhere where it says bloodlusted

Like I said I might be wrong

This IS OWAW Superman.

Bring on Quasar!

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, but feel free to try and prove that they're fodder, given their feats.

I think the Probes are definitely up there. The average Herald would be hard pressed to beat one. However, while they may be harder to damage then the average High Herald, once you crack there shell, they die unlike regular beings. In that sense, it's not truly comparable to fighting other Heralds. For example, if Superman punches Surfer hard, it'll hurt but he'd get up and keep fighting. If it was a probe, it would die.

Too much lowballing and exaggeration going on. A great showing for Superman, that few can match, but let's not pretend that Thor etc. couldn't replicate that shit.

Considering how much damage they can tank, it's not easy to break their shell. Not to mention, if you do, you still have to survive the explosion

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think the Probes are definitely up there. The average Herald would be hard pressed to beat one. However, while they may be harder to damage then the average High Herald, once you crack there shell, they die unlike regular beings. In that sense, it's not truly comparable to fighting other Heralds. For example, if Superman punches Surfer hard, it'll hurt but he'd get up and keep fighting. If it was a probe, it would die.

Too much lowballing and exaggeration going on. A great showing for Superman, that few can match, but let's not pretend that Thor etc. couldn't replicate that shit.

if thor fought any way intelligently, like he's capable of doing, i'd expect him to beat at least a few probes. Same with Surfer, Hulk, Hal etc

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think the Probes are definitely up there. The average Herald would be hard pressed to beat one. However, while they may be harder to damage then the average High Herald, once you crack there shell, they die unlike regular beings. In that sense, it's not truly comparable to fighting other Heralds. For example, if Superman punches Surfer hard, it'll hurt but he'd get up and keep fighting. If it was a probe, it would die.

Too much lowballing and exaggeration going on. A great showing for Superman, that few can match, but let's not pretend that Thor etc. couldn't replicate that shit.

I don't think Thor can replicate the feats involving brute strength.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Considering how much damage they can tank, it's not easy to break their shell. Not to mention, if you do, you still have to survive the explosion

As I said, harder to damage compared to most Heralds. Still, I think once any of the big boys cut loose, they could damage them left and right like Superman and Doomsday.

Well, in the fight that's brought up the most for Superman, they actually didn't explode when killed but leaked energy or whatever.