The Official "Argue with Quan about Zelda" Thread

'K, Ganondorf uses the Triforce, a holy and good artifact. He also uses the Sage's Sword. He wields 2 good relics at the same time. By Quanchi's logic of "using an aligned relic makes you that alignment," this must mean Ganondorf is extra good because he uses 2 holy relics.

Am I understanding your argument correctly, Quanchi?

(Also, Midna saves Zelda twice while using the Fused Shadows. Quanchi, do you recall stating that the Fused Shadow weren't a mental effect, because Midna retained her normal behavior?)

Originally posted by The Scenario
'K, Ganondorf uses the Triforce, a holy and good artifact. He also uses the Sage's Sword. He wields 2 good relics at the same time. By Quanchi's logic of "using an aligned relic makes you that alignment," this must mean Ganondorf is extra good because he uses 2 holy relics.

Am I understanding your argument correctly, Quanchi?

(Also, Midna saves Zelda twice while using the Fused Shadows. Quanchi, do you recall stating that the Fused Shadow weren't a mental effect, because Midna retained her normal behavior?)

She can use it yes but it's still an evil magic.

Sage's sword?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean how, Midna only uses it in combat situations, so she ends up, you know, fighting people with it? I guess Spider-Man's tights are an evil artifact that makes him more aggressive, lol.

Triforce is made with good magic. Fused Shadows with evil magic. The comparison stands, is Ganondorf good?

Triforce isn't good only since Dorf uses it all the time. Can Dorf use the Ms ?

Wait, what monkey?

The one being controlled by a shadow insect?

Spiderman's skippiez do make people go bad though.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Wait, what monkey?

The one being controlled by a shadow insect?

Originally posted by quanchi112
One with the fused shadow or am I misremembering ? Either way Goron example works fine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong as Spider-Man's tights don't make people lose their minds and be evil aka monkey, or Goron.

Triforce isn't good only since Dorf uses it all the time. Can Dorf use the Ms ?

Ganon uses good power for evil, and is evil, if Midna uses evil power for good, she is what?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You mean the Yeti, with a piece of the Mirror of Twilight, another non-evil artifact with corrupting powers. You know, the one utilized by the Sages.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Midna is neither a Yeti or a Goron, and did not lose control of herself or become more aggressive, she used the FS for good.

Ganon uses good power for evil, and is evil, if Midna uses evil power for good, she is what?

Dorf can't use the Ms but he can use neutral magic the triforce.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fused shadows is evil. That's a fact. Ms doesn't corrupt because its good.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She became more aggressive and its still evil.

Dorf can't use the Ms but he can use neutral magic the triforce.

The MS is sentient and has the specific power to choose who can and cannot wield it, or even touch it. Neither the Fused Shadows or Triforce have either of those things.

Ganon uses good power for evil, and is evil, if Midna uses evil power for good, she is what?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Sage's sword?

Everyone remembers that glowing sword Ganondorf uses, right? Remember how it's the same holy blade he took from the Sages? And how it's a good relic, right?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Everyone remembers that glowing sword Ganondorf uses, right? Remember how it's the same holy blade he took from the Sages? And how it's a good relic, right?

He uses relics created by the Sages and a goddess, he must be good!

Link uses evil power to transform into a wolf, too.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That is not a fact. The Fused Shadows were made with evil power but they are not sentient, and cannot make decisions and thus cannot be evil independently, and as seen [b]they can be used for good.

No she didn't, she used it in combat situations where she was already going to be 'aggressive'. Herp.

The MS is sentient and has the specific power to choose who can and cannot wield it, or even touch it. Neither the Fused Shadows or Triforce have either of those things.

Ganon uses good power for evil, and is evil, if Midna uses evil power for good, she is what? [/B]

She killed Zant without mercy. She is more aggressive with it on,

Ms is good and the Fused shadows are evil.

Dorf can't wield the Ms because its only good. Triforce is dependent on the user.

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Just like good magic is the triforce!

Why would she be merciful to someone who enslaved and warped her people? She never intended to be merciful to him.

Din is good, usurpers are evil!

Dorf can't wield the MS because Fi is sentient and will not allow it.

dur

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Just like good magic is the triforce!

Why would she be merciful to someone who enslaved and warped her people? She never intended to be merciful to him.

Din is good, usurpers are evil!

Dorf can't wield the MS because Fi is sentient and [b]will not allow it.

dur [/B]

Evil for evil is not good.

Ms won't allow Dorf to use as it is good.

Point proven.

Din is good. The usurpers are evil.

She used the FS for good.

The Master Sword is sentient. This is different.

You didn't prove a point you made an incorrect claim.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Din is good. The usurpers are evil.

She used the FS for good.

The Master Sword is sentient. This is different.

You didn't prove a point you made an incorrect claim.

Still evil magic.

Ms is good only. See the diff.

I proved my point..