The Official "Argue with Quan about Zelda" Thread

Originally posted by quanchi112
Caapble of both goodness and selfishness.

No, it depends on their experiences. Midna experienced kindness from link andzelda and became kinder herself. For a moment, try to understand that people from the past aren't the same as they are now.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Oh my, "her end game"? That sounds ominous. So what horrible methods did she use to accomplish this terrible end game?

-Helping Link escape from prison?

-Returning the Light to Faron Woods?

-(During the Forest Temple Midna suggested saving all the monkeys)

-Helping save Link's friends while returning the Light to Eldin?

-Hm, does Midna really not care for Zelda?

-"We can't just leave them like this..."

-"I'm sorry for dragging you all over the place with me..."

What a monster! All pre-Zelda, by the way. Now for the Zelda scene? That one's a doozy. Of course, highlights from this moment include:

-"Please...please tell me...how do we break...the curse on this one? This...is the one...you need him...to save your world!"

-"That's why...Princess...please...you must help Link"

-"Fine...Link...you can...you can get to the woods...on your own, right?"

Hm, Midna's dying, and her only concern is Link's well being, and how he can save both worlds without her. I can't believe how selfish that is. Really, just appalling.

Now, I do like Zelda's line here:

-"Despite your mortal injuries, you act in our stead...These dark times are the result of our actions, yet it is you who have reaped the penalty."

Interesting, no? Really illustrates how evil Midna is capable of being here. I just want to make sure we're all on the same page, that Midna is basically the worst person ever. I mean what would you expect from such a sarcastic individual? Must be half-evil.

Not letting you bury this.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Not letting you bury this.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Try to actually address my post if you're going to quote it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All for her own personal gain. She is truly awed by Zelda's sacrifice.

"NO...Link...Stop her!"

Just the most selfish thing I have ever seen.

Personal gain=the salvation of two worlds?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
No, it depends on their experiences. Midna experienced kindness from link andzelda and became kinder herself. For a moment, try to understand that people from the past aren't the same as they are now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did. Your post disagree with my post, essentially.

And now she does. She is NOW a good person, right?

Originally posted by The Scenario
"NO...Link...Stop her!"

Just the most selfish thing I have ever seen.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Personal gain=the salvation of two worlds?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, you addressed nothing I said, you restated your stance without even addressing the points I brought up which [b]completely destroyed it. [/B]

Originally posted by quanchi112
Initially she was only concerned about the fate of her world.

Oh, I'm sorry. Personal gain= the salvation of one race of imprisoned mutated people.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
And now she does. She is NOW a good person, right?

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is capable of both like I always said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was heroic at times as well. I never denied this.

She was pretty heroic always. I still don't see how trying to save the Twilight Realm is selfish.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, get back to me when you disagree with my stance. You're just dying for my attention.

Midna was utterly selfless by mid game. Inarguably. You cannot prove otherwise, despite claiming as much.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
But thanks to her experiences, she is now a selfless caring person and unlikely to be neutral again, right?

Originally posted by The Scenario
She was pretty heroic always. I still don't see how trying to save the Twilight Realm is selfish.