The Official "Argue with Quan about Zelda" Thread

Started by quanchi11287 pages

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I just want to know where you stand. Can a person outside of those three be good/evil?
Zant seems pretty evil too.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How about proving it before anyone accepts it.
You people are in denial.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You people are in denial.
So you can't prove your stance?

Originally posted by The Scenario
"Capable of" is a cop out answer because anyone is capable of any behavior within their power. Linking is perfectly capable of breaking into people's houses at night, destroying all their pottery, and stealing their money.

You seem to have trouble with tenses. Midna [b]was neutral, at least in regard to Hyrule. Currently, Midna is a good person, because she now cares for Hyrule. (She cared before, too, remember how she wanted to save the Zora pre-sacrifice?) [/B]

She has been both selfish and selfless. It's just the way it is. You can't ignore her selfishness.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So you can't prove your stance?
I already have. You are just in denial.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already have. You are just in denial.

Quote yourself providing the evidence.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Quote yourself providing the evidence.
Go back into the thread and do it yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Go back into the thread and do it yourself.

I did, I couldn't find you providing any evidence at all.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I did, I couldn't find you providing any evidence at all.
Lying isn't going to help you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lying isn't going to help you.

Then stop lying and provide some actual evidence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zant seems pretty evil too.

And midna being in direct opposition of him would make her good, no?

Again, you seem to struggle with the concept of time and change. Lets say I sucked at math as a kid. If I studied everyday and got all A's in highschool, would I suck at math as an adult? If The behavior of a character changes to be a good person, then that person is good.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She has been both selfish and selfless. It's just the way it is. You can't ignore her selfishness.

I can point out that she stopped being "selfish" and regretted it, thereby redeeming herself.

You think that being selfish once means she's selfish forever? Again, do you know what the word 'change' means?

..when did Link show he was concerned about saving the Twili realm until later on? He only started this to save his friends, then realm by slaying everything Twili til a lil way in.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Then stop lying and provide some actual evidence.
I already have. Quit begging.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
And midna being in direct opposition of him would make her good, no?

Again, you seem to struggle with the concept of time and change. Lets say I sucked at math as a kid. If I studied everyday and got all A's in highschool, would I suck at math as an adult? If The behavior of a character changes to be a good person, then that person is good.

You have misconceptions of what makes people do what they do. Midna is like most people.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I can point out that she stopped being "selfish" and regretted it, thereby redeeming herself.

You think that being selfish once means she's selfish forever? Again, do you know what the word 'change' means?

I never said she was evil forever. Not once. Quit putting words in my mouth, k ?

Originally posted by BloodRain
..when did Link show he was concerned about saving the Twili realm until later on? He only started this to save his friends, then realm by slaying everything Twili til a lil way in.
Link cared about everyone along the way. Never once was he manipulating others to achieve his ends.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You have misconceptions of what makes people do what they do. Midna is like most people.

Most people would risk their lives standing up to an oppressive dictator who is actively killing or corrupting everyone in his way? Most people would stop to help the light Worlders that banished them, even if it means a delay saving their own country? Most people would make their dying wish to help someone else save their world?

Wow, and I thought my faith in humanity was high. You're on a whole other level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said she was evil forever. Not once. Quit putting words in my mouth, k ?

Right back at ya, big guy. Where did I say you thought Midna was evil forever? In the post you quoted, I said "selfish forever." That one does seem to be your argument, as Midna stops being 'selfish' less than halfway through the game yet you still say she is. So what gives, you don't think people change?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Right back at ya, big guy. Where did I say you thought Midna was evil forever? In the post you quoted, I said "selfish forever." That one does seem to be your argument, as Midna stops being 'selfish' less than halfway through the game yet you still say she is. So what gives, you don't think people change?
I said she demonstrated both attributes. She did.