The Official "Argue with Quan about Zelda" Thread

Started by NotAllThatEvil87 pages

And was selfless after. Cause and effect, bro.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
And was selfless after. Cause and effect, bro.
So she is capable of both. Past and past, bro. Start using your brain.

Past. As in, no longer applicable?

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was selfish prior to Zelda and Link's selflessness.
1. Prove it. 2. Now she isn't.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Past. As in, no longer applicable?
Both happened in the past, genius.

Except she was moved to selflessness in her current state.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Except she was moved to selflessness in her current state.
That still occurred in the past as did her previous actions. All canon. You Zelda fans always try to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't. This is what makes you biased.

If something changed her into being "good", would there not also be something needed to change her "bad"? As nothing happened post good change in game, I assume she is good. Did she do anything bad or something happen to make her bad post change?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
If something changed her into being "good", would there not also be something needed to change her "bad"? As nothing happened post good change in game, I assume she is good. Did she do anything bad or something happen to make her bad post change?
She demonstrated both selfinessness and selflessness in the game so she is capable of both. That's a fact.

Fact. However, she was selfish then something moved her then she was selfless. Also fact. She just isn't that selfish anymore.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Fact. However, she was selfish then something moved her then she was selfless. Also fact. She just isn't that selfish anymore.
She can go both ways. She has. Fact. It's awesome how wrong you Zelda freaks are.

Ok, imagine midna is like ice. She's all cold and stiff, but after the warmth of friendship and sacrifice she became water or steam. Now she still has the potential to be ice, but we would need something to change the temperature. Since nothing happened to cool her back to ice, she's still water or steam. Does that make sense?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Ok, imagine midna is like ice. She's all cold and stiff, but after the warmth of friendship and sacrifice she became water or steam. Now she still has the potential to be ice, but we would need something to change the temperature. Since nothing happened to cool her back to ice, she's still water or steam. Does that make sense?
No. She is capable of both. That's it.

Yes, but her current "temperature" is good. Right?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Yes, but her current "temperature" is good. Right?
We don't know what it is. Still has both in her past.

Except we have her and gandorf saying she was moved to good by sacrifice and friendship. We don't see anything that would "freeze" her back to bad. If she stays at room temperature, she's good.

Love Midna. Its blatantly obvious she stopped being evil/bad/mischevous.

Sniff.

I so ship Midna and Link

...linkXilia...

95% good, 4% mean, 1% actual selfish behavior.

Unless you have some other evidence that might change this percentage. I mean, yeah, Midna didn't want to save the Light World originally. That's true. However, she was always trying to save the Twilight Realm. That's true, too.

Hey, quan, is Midna trying to rescue the Twili a selfish action?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Except we have her and gandorf saying she was moved to good by sacrifice and friendship. We don't see anything that would "freeze" her back to bad. If she stays at room temperature, she's good.
She is still capable and only went that route due to the actions of others.