The Official "Argue with Quan about Zelda" Thread

Started by quanchi11287 pages
quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
She was moved by their heroism. Shadow moved by light.

The Scenario Greater Sci-Fi combatant

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to her coming into contact with good heroes. Throw some evil pricks minus the heroes and she goes right back into her selfish ways.

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Can you prove that claim? I mean, what are you basing this on? When did Midna go back to being selfish at any point? There must be some example of this for you to be so sure of it.

You wouldn't pull something like this out of thin air, would you?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Scenario
Can you prove that claim? I mean, what are you basing this on? When did Midna go back to being selfish at any point? There must be some example of this for you to be so sure of it.

You wouldn't pull something like this out of thin air, would you?

Her using Link for her Len selfish means. She later learns to care for him.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Is she gonna unlearn the lesson?

The Scenario Greater Sci-Fi combatant

Not the question I asked.

Your claim is that if Midna was exposed to someone evil, she would become selfish again, after she has already been moved by Link.

Support that one.

ScreamPaste Carpe Noctem

Originally posted by quanchi112
She was moved by their heroism. Shadow moved by light.

And this invalidates her actions how?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Is she gonna unlearn the lesson?
She has committed both actions.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Scenario
Not the question I asked.

Your claim is that if Midna was exposed to someone evil, she would become selfish again, after she has already been moved by Link.

Support that one.

We see it already. We see her become selfless when she was moved by selfless actions of others.

Supported.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
And this invalidates her actions how?
When did I say that ?

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

You seem to undervalue the order in which events happen...

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
You seem to undervalue the order in which events happen...
No, they both happened which means she is capable of both. You seem to act like one action matters while another does not. Bias.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Both happened, but since one character actually said she CHANGED, then I use the most current action. Timing is important.

The Scenario Greater Sci-Fi combatant

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see it already. We see her become selfless when she was moved by selfless actions of others.

Supported.

But when was the reverse demonstrated? Why would she go back after learning to be more selfless?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by The Scenario
But when was the reverse demonstrated? Why would she go back after learning to be more selfless?
Depends on the circumstances. If someone is selfless to me a typical person would return the favor. If someone is a prick you'd tend to be selfish to get your way back. Link and Zelda are always selfless in this game but not her on her own. Hence the point.

ScreamPaste Carpe Noctem

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say that ?

That seems to be what you are arguing. Otherwise why bring it up at all?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
That seems to be what you are arguing. Otherwise why bring it up at all?
You don't grasp it. You never will.

ScreamPaste Carpe Noctem

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't grasp it. You never will.
So you forget? Good.

Midna would happily die so long as others were saved. She is selfless and good. Yes?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So you forget? Good.

Midna would happily die so long as others were saved. She is selfless and good. Yes?

Her actions are dependent on the actions of others unlike Link and Zelda. As I said she is capable of both, weakling.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

How is link different? If someone treats him bad, he sticks a sword in them.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
How is link different? If someone treats him bad, he sticks a sword in them.
Link doesn't use people selfishly to achieve his own goals as she attempted to do initially.