Krayt vs. Revan

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**** Revan man. He should be crazy powerful yet he's got bupkis to show for it. That book only made him marginally less of an unknown then he was before. It wasn't worth the sacrifice either. Krayt wins.

If we judged characters' powers by the quality of their stories, Bane and Revan would be so low they'd be getting wedgies from Jar Jar.

Path of Destruction wasn't that bad. I enjoyed it and really got into seeing a Sith's perspective in terms of training and rise.

Also Drew said that Revan is about as good as Bane. But he also said they both were as good as Vader, so who knows.

If Krayt was voted over Dooku, what chance does Revan have?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Path of Destruction wasn't that bad. I enjoyed it and really got into seeing a Sith's perspective in terms of training and rise.

If that's the case, you should read Plagueis, which is a zillion times better.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also Drew said that Revan is about as good as Bane. But he also said they both were as good as Vader, so who knows.

I wouldn't put him too far off the mark either way. Vader's got the feats to rival, if not surpass Bane, and Revan is only far off if you consider feats alone.

Sidious is too uninteresting to appeal to me. I'll settle for a synopsis.

If thats what you think whats your own opinion on the thread? Is Revan near enough to beat Dooku?

Oh, I forgot you don't like charismatic, powerful Sith Lords with realistic motivations who are successful.

Stick to the one-dimensional thug, by all means. 👆

I think Revan is a hair above Dooku and have thought so for years, but as you mentioned recently, he's a hard one to back due to lackluster feats.

'Realistic motivations?' Lawl. Don't tell me Palps got some crazy backstory that makes him less of a stereotypical cackling monster?

Yes, Revan seems more powerful, but he doesn't really have the chops to back it up.

Pursuit of power is an absolutely realistic motivation.

Agreed.

Thats Banes motivation as well though so ha ha ha.

Krayt's motivation is to bring the galaxy to peace by bringing it under one will.

Well, until he dies. That was sort of a religious experience for him. Then he decides he wants to reforge the galaxy stronger by making it go through death and rebirth.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

I wouldn't put him too far off the mark either way. Vader's got the feats to rival, if not surpass Bane, and Revan is only far off if you consider feats alone.

Ditto. For me, Revan, Bane, Krayt, and Vader all fill similar roles and are more or less in the same tier.

Drew gave a statement that Bane and Revan are equal to Vader? Sauce?

Its from his website. He's talking about questions and answers one about fights as 'Don't ask me about this. If Bane or Revan or Vader fought it would depend on the circumstances and how they felt going into the fight.'

Or something similar.

Oh hey here it is:

Who’s stronger – Darth Bane, Darth Revan or Darth Vader?

It’s a tie. Seriously, I can’t answer this. First, it’s not really up to me to make that kind of call. Second, it really depends on the situation. You can probably find rule books for various Star Wars role-playing games that will give you stats allowing you to compare relative strength. But from an artistic and dramatic standpoint, this kind of question has no “right” answer. Each character has strengths and weaknesses, and they grow and change as their stories progress. On any given day, at any given time, under any given circumstance anyone can win or lose. That’s what dramatic conflict is all about.

http://drewkarpyshyn.com/c/?page_id=63

Edit: Man, he comes off like a real prick in this FAQ.

More like ***.

So he doesn't really give an answer one way or the other.

Its non-canon and just his personal opinion so it doesn't truly matter, but he says its a tie right at the start and the implication is that they're close.

Krayt seems more powerful based on feats.

Revan is not explored in detail in the mythos so he is very hard to quantify in terms of talent and skill in the big picture for versus debates. Still their are ample hints which indicate that Revan is among the most learned and powerful Jedi of the mythos.

Look at this example:

If Revan would have been in place of Krayt; he would have owned Celeste Morne in return.

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On top of this, it took a (DE) Sidious type individual to handle Revan in combat. Nothing indicates that Krayt is that damn powerful; not even close.

The associated author (Mr. Drew) confirmed to me in a email that Revan is a telekinetic powerhouse; unfortunately, he didn't explore Revan in this aspect much in the novel but he left a hint in the "power gathering" feat of Revan with which the Jedi Master overwhelmed Sith Emperor temporarily; not to forget that the novel covers just a few years of Revan's whole story.

If we consider telekinetic feats alone, we would end up with a distorted perception. I recall Satele Shan shattering gigantic tree with a gesture from a single hand along with holding Malgus at bay with another hand simultaneously (very impressive feat on the whole) but then ending up loosing to the same Sith Lord a few moments later until her ally stepped in to help. Therefore, telekinetic abilities feats do not explain power factor properly.

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In SWTOR game, Revan actually unleashed Force Maelstrom power on the Imperial Strike Team; this after, 300 years of continuous torture and shit. On top of this, he packs mysterious abilities (e.g. escaping from the Imperial Strike Team in the form of an energy); the full extent of his abilities are unknown.

Revan is heavily underestimated in the mythos. Holistic picture wise, he will wreck majority of individuals in single combat.

To defeat Revan, you either need to be a potent Strike Team or (DE) Sidious level individual. Otherwise, you are not succeeding.

RotS Sidious can't defeat Revan? Really?