Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Doesn't mean ure high herald. When did she destroy a sun btw? Refresh my memory..
I agree with you. That was my argument the entire time. It was either Binary that destroyed a sun or Galactus Herald, Nova. Can't remeber off hand. Hyperion made a star go Nova as well (and rammed Wonderman through a planet) and he is still considered a mid Herald. Don't think people consider fts like that when doing placement for characters.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you. That was my argument the entire time. It was either Binary that destroyed a sun or Galactus Herald, Nova. Can't remeber off hand. Hyperion made a star go Nova as well (and rammed Wonderman through a planet) and he is still considered a mid Herald. Don't think people consider ers like that when doing placement for characters.
People like Gladiator or Drax have sporadically perform space cheese feats a few times in the past, yet when they actually go up against the established top tiers like Thor and Hulk, they will usually always end up being portrayed as peers or inferiors of Earth's champions.
High heralds, in general, have the best space cheese feats out there as well.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's why the term "space cheese" was invented for cosmic-based characters that perform ridiculous, far out of the left field feats.People like Gladiator or Drax have sporadically perform space cheese feats a few times in the past, yet when they actually go up against the established top tiers like Thor and Hulk, they will usually always end up being portrayed as peers or inferiors of Earth's champions.
High heralds, in general, have the best space cheese feats out there as well.
Looking at the consistency of fts like that mainly Heralds (Galactus like Heralds) are performing them. I can't count on one hand how many times Surfer has destroyed a planet...it seems to be consistent for the character...same can't be said for Hulk, Superman, or Thor. That's why I am one of the peeps that put Surfer above most, if not all Heralds...his power level is straight across the board, rarely see any fluctuation when it comes to the character ability. Space cheese might mean very little to most but Surer type space cheese should stand out as "something different".
Originally posted by carver9
Looking at the consistency of fts like that mainly Heralds (Galactus like Heralds) are performing them. I can't count on one hand how many times Surfer has destroyed a planet...it seems to be consistent for the character...same can't be said for Hulk, Superman, or Thor. That's why I am one of the peeps that put Surfer above most, if not all Heralds...his power level is straight across the board, rarely see any fluctuation when it comes to the character ability. Space cheese might mean very little to most but Surer type space cheese should stand out as "something different".
While the Surfer has a greater number of space cheese feats than Thor does, Thor's grade-A quality feats easily rival, if not outright exceed those of Surfer's.
Surfer's warning blast scared the life out of Thor!
Surfer occasionally jobs because he's not one of Marvel's big attractions. Still, almost every fight/encounter he's had with Hulk (who is one of the "big 3" err big 2?), has gone his way with little to no effort on the part of Surfer.
Partly that's down to Surfer having the tools to "undo" the Hulk, draining and/or reverting him to Banner, partly due to Hulk having no animus towards him, viewing him as shiny 🙂
Also, partly it's down to Surfer just being a whole lot tougher than anyone Hulk faces on Earth. Which is natural given the extremes he endures each time Galactus swats him or each time he travels through some wormhole or other.
Surfer vs T&A is greater than any herald feat I can recollect, aside from the higher end Hulk stuff.
He was being stomped on by T&A, yet he not only survived the damage, but managed to manipulate an energy source so powerful and vast that it destroyed 2 Celestial level beings and left Galactus impressed!
Then there's the pounding he gave that rogue Watcher in the UniLord saga.
And the gonzo power to evolve a whole planet, its entire ecology, billions of years in moments.
There's lots more ofcourse, but those are standouts.
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer vs T&A is greater than any herald feat I can recollect, aside from the higher end Hulk stuff.