Majestic VS World War Hulk

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Thor's beating of Glory easily rivals, if not supercedes it. Hulk hasn't even beaten any skyfather-level characters, let alone the Abstract types which Thor and Surfer have dealt with, either.

T&A actually fought Galactus and were proving more than a match for him.

Originally posted by iceman24567
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Originally posted by janus77
Thor's feat was with aid from Gaia, iirc... Thor was dying when his mother went and juiced him up... and Glory hardly did anything before that fight.

T&A actually fought Galactus and were proving more than a match for him.

Glory was second only to the Chaos King, who was pretty much Eternity's equal in that arc and whose minorly-amped minion was punking a hungry Galactus.

I seem to recall him _dying_ and requiring his mother's intervention, to amp him up.

And CK amped Zeus' powers were used by Herc to fix the universe, iirc, so far more impressive than feat-less Glory.

Thor vs Glory, Surfer vs TnA and Nova vs Dual Ka Stone Sphinx... 3 best examples in recent years of characters stepping up their game significantly to deal with a vastly superior opponent. Come at me Abhi...

Originally posted by janus77
I seem to recall him _dying_ and requiring his mother's intervention, to amp him up.

And CK amped Zeus' powers were used by Herc to fix the universe, iirc, so far more impressive than feat-less Glory.

IIRC, Herc relied on his own skyfather powers to do that. That along with Gaea's blessing. Zeus' only impressive feat was taking on Galatus in that arc as well. Glory was second to CK. Indisputable.

Yes, an amp in the form of a "spark" sent from him mum... I remember people taking the piss out of the feat, Thor needing his mum to fight his battles for him, etc.

It wasn't under his own power and he was dead, according to the narration, iirc.

Thor damaged Glory, forcing it to feel pain for the first time, long before the "spark" came into play.

And that's saying something? Because I don't recall Glory fighting T&A or Galactus or anyone. It's a featless character, just hyped to give greater 'glory' to CK.

Originally posted by janus77
Thor's feat was with aid from Gaia, iirc... Thor was dying when his mother went and juiced him up... and Glory hardly did anything before that fight.

T&A actually fought Galactus and were proving more than a match for him.

Gaia didn't help Thor.

And Surfer hardly defeated T&A alone, lol.

Originally posted by dmills
Thor vs Glory, Surfer vs TnA and Nova vs Dual Ka Stone Sphinx... 3 best examples in recent years of characters stepping up their game significantly to deal with a vastly superior opponent. Come at me Abhi...

Originally posted by janus77
Yes, an amp in the form of a "spark" sent from him mum... I remember people taking the piss out of the feat, Thor needing his mum to fight his battles for him, etc.

It wasn't under his own power and he was dead, according to the narration, iirc.

It was thanks to the boost he got from Gaea's blessing. You're just mixing up the 2 entirely different scenes now.

Gaea's blessing? She wasn't even mentioned in the mini IIRC.

In the first fight, half way through after Glory's mental attacks were crippling Thor's will the prayer of one of his followers (A Spark) revived his hope or whatever. It's not a power-up in the same sense that Superman Sun Dip. However, him being a God, the prayer was enough of a drive to save him from extinction in that last explosion.

In the second fight, Thor was brought back by Blake and the woman Becca. Thor was destroying Glory and shit but the Chaos King was directly amping and restoring him. Eventually they channeled the power of TOAA through Thor to destroy him finally.

That entire story highlighted Thor's mental will and fortification to a ridiculous degree. Even as Blake momentarily touching his consciousness in his weakened form wrecked Glory:

I also enjoyed how Thor being a God made him incredibly different from other superheroes like Superman. His divine blessing was able to protect him her from the Chaos King's mental attack which took out every non Divine being on the planet and all that other randoms hit that went on:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gaea's blessing?

Therefore, I'd like to clarify that I was referring to All-Father Herc getting a power-up from Gaea, not Thor.

Oh alright, must have misunderstood you, I'm sorry.

I was actually correcting Janus' confounded idea that Gaea amped up Thor against Glory. I clearly told him that he was mixing up the Herc/Thor instances.

Thor was inspired by TOAA to fight on. Herc was actually amped up by Gaea on the other hand iirc.

Yes, that's it. The pertinent fact is of the amping, though coming from TOAA ... it's even more of a decider.

I never knew divine inspiration was considered power-amping on comic battleboards.

Anyways, even if we decide to entertain the idea that Thor was literally amped by TOAA, then that just goes to show the level of threat that Glory represented in that arc.

Along with the fact that Thor actually did a far better job of channeling TOAA's so-called "amp" than Surfer did with the inferior Crunch energies.

The Spark came from Becca and was not an amp in the same sense as an external power source so it's very much valid for Thor.

Human belief and prayer as well as his own faith has shown to affect Thor's power levels in the past, but the writer very clearly defined what the spark did. I am surprised however that I haven't seen anyone argue that Thor taps into prayers to amp himself so far. It would be a neat debating trick.

Anyways, the power of TOAA was ultimately channeled to defeat Glory but that was the last part of their second fight, and not the first.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Anyways, even if we decide to entertain the idea that Thor was literally amped by TOAA, then that just goes to show the level of threat that Glory represented in that arc.

Along with the fact that Thor actually did a far better job of channeling TOAA's so-called "amp" than Surfer did with the inferior Crunch energies.

That's because Thor's not a weak kneed punk like Surfer.