Gin vs Wind Waker Link

Started by ScreamPaste10 pages

And before anyone gets on my case I haven't claimed Link wins yet. uhuh

Between spirit energy and magic? There is no distinction because there is no magic. It's a person's inner spiritual energy/power that allows them to do everything in that universe. From Flash Step to Kido to powering your zanpakuto Shikai or Bankai release to making people pass out from the enormous nature of your power level.

It's essentially the same thing as Ki from Dragonball/Z and Spirit Energy from Yu-Yu-Hakusho.

So the Master Sword reacting to the spells is an iffy thing, since they aren't magic. They're directed spiritual energy altered to have different effects.

Originally posted by KingD19
Between spirit energy and magic? There is no distinction because there is no magic. It's a person's inner spiritual energy/power that allows them to do everything in that universe. From Flash Step to Kido to powering your zanpakuto Shikai or Bankai release to making people pass out from the enormous nature of your power level.

It's essentially the same thing as Ki from Dragonball/Z and Spirit Energy from Yu-Yu-Hakusho.

So the Master Sword reacting to the spells is an iffy thing, since they aren't magic. They're directed spiritual energy altered to have different effects.

The sword has absorbed souls and spirits before, lol. It was actually 'forged' in the soul of the Hero, apparently.

Well if all else fails, Gin's Bankai could possibly make it past all Link's defenses. You can't block against dust.

Unless you have a leaf.

Originally posted by KingD19
Between spirit energy and magic? There is no distinction because there is no magic. It's a person's inner spiritual energy/power that allows them to do everything in that universe. From Flash Step to Kido to powering your zanpakuto Shikai or Bankai release to making people pass out from the enormous nature of your power level.

It's essentially the same thing as Ki from Dragonball/Z and Spirit Energy from Yu-Yu-Hakusho.

So the Master Sword reacting to the spells is an iffy thing, since they aren't magic. They're directed spiritual energy altered to have different effects.

The Master Sword should be able to protect Link against most of Gin's Kido...

But then he doesn't need Kido to waste Link.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Unless you have a leaf.

MOST SHOCKING TWIST YET!

Might take longer than 0.08 seconds for Link to switch from his sword to a leaf. He'll have been caught by then.

Well he smacked some magic balls around, so he's obviously fast enough to switch in 0.07 seconds.

A fyi, the length and speed of the bankai isn't what he said it was, much less. However that 0.08 comes from the full extension, which wouldn't happen here.

Its certainly incredibly fast and long, just maybe not 13 kilometers and 500 x the speed of sound. He admitted to lying to Aizen about it, but whether he told Aizen the same numbers he did Ichigo is unknown.

True.. though with max concentration Ichi could just barely dodge it, and no way is he MHS.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well if all else fails, Gin's Bankai could possibly make it past all Link's defenses. You can't block against dust.

If I read the OBD profile correctly, this is one of his spiritual abilities, the master sword should protect him from its' effects, or even repel the dust from reaching him.
Originally posted by ares834
The Master Sword should be able to protect Link against most of Gin's Kido...

But then he doesn't need Kido to waste Link.


You keep saying this, explain it to me, what is Gin's secret weapon which he holds over Link, disallowing Link from beating him once out of ten times?
Originally posted by Nephthys

MOST SHOCKING TWIST YET!


What did I tell you about the ****ing Deku Leaf? No one pays attention. estahuh

Gin can telekinetically control said dust.

You'd need to prove that gust of wind is better than control sufficient enough to extend at hypersonic speeds and cut multiple city blocks in half.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You keep saying this, explain it to me, what is Gin's secret weapon which he holds over Link, disallowing Link from beating him once out of ten times?

The secret weapon is that no-one except you buys Link being fast enough to contend with him, having a chance of blocking his sword or engaging him at all without the protection of magic armor.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The secret weapon is that no-one except you buys Link being fast enough to contend with him, having a chance of blocking his sword or engaging him at all without the protection of magic armor.
Owned paste.

Been forever since I've since I've read Bleach, having stopped somewhere around Fullbring, but I'm pretty sure everything is SpiritEnergy in that 'verse. The swords, the magic, Gin's body, etc. are all made if the same stuff.

In any case, I do believe Link can hang with Gin physically for at least a little while. It's the speed that's the problem. Unfortunately for Link, Ganondorf pretty clearly outspeeds him, and in the Ganon Gets Serious portion of the final battle battle Link is unable to touch him at all, even given Zelda's assistance. It was 2 on 1 and Ganondorf still danced around them until they managed a pretty clever trick to make him stop loldodging. So I think the the strength/durability gap is not insurmountable, but the speed gap is a bit big.

...That is, unless the fact that Wind Waker Link and Phantom Hourglass Link are the same person means anything. In THAT case, the little guy has access to a Time Stop. So, there's that.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Been forever since I've since I've read Bleach, having stopped somewhere around Fullbring, but I'm pretty sure everything is SpiritEnergy in that 'verse. The swords, the magic, Gin's body, etc. are all made if the same stuff.

In any case, I do believe Link can hang with Gin physically for at least a little while. It's the speed that's the problem. Unfortunately for Link, Ganondorf pretty clearly outspeeds him, and in the Ganon Gets Serious portion of the final battle battle Link is unable to touch him at all, even given Zelda's assistance. It was 2 on 1 and Ganondorf still danced around them until they managed a pretty clever trick to make him stop loldodging. So I think the the strength/durability gap is not insurmountable, but the speed gap is a bit big.

...That is, unless the fact that Wind Waker Link and Phantom Hourglass Link are the same person means anything. In THAT case, the little guy has access to a Time Stop. So, there's that.


Hm. Well we know the sword can handle spirits and ghosts and also absorb souls, so should be fine, imho. Think it'll be able to deal break up pieces of Gin's weapon?

Yeah, Ganondorf is definitely faster, we get a cutscene of him beating Link up that shows it as well, but given Ganondorf's record I'm not too put off by that. Link and Zelda did still win. Link while certainly not the quicker fighter between the two can't be too so far behind him as to have been totally helpless, imho, which means he should be fine speed wise when it comes to Gin. The problem is we're low on 'concrete' numbers for WW Link.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
WW Link gets all his stuff while Gin gets his Zanpakuto. Who wins?

^Maybe?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Gin can telekinetically control said dust.

You'd need to prove that gust of wind is better than control sufficient enough to extend at hypersonic speeds and cut multiple city blocks in half.


Wasn't the blade solid when he did that? I was under the impression this was a feat for his extendo sword and strength.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Hm. Well we know the sword can handle spirits and ghosts and also absorb souls, so should be fine, imho. Think it'll be able to deal break up pieces of Gin's weapon?

Well, a zanpakuto is basically Ghirahim, so maybe. I recall some weapons have been broken, so it isn't impossible. Damage probably won't be permanent, though.

It is amusing that paste just cowers around scenario.