Thor vs A Planet

Started by zopzop19 pages

Originally posted by Nibedicus
That's not "proof". That's a theory. Basically, "Since Gorr was actively resisting, thus he contributed force". Proof is something, like artwork or narration or even freakin character statements, that SHOWS him contributing force.

Of which you have none.

Yes. "X" being the force involved. In this case, the force that caused shockwaves which were shattering "worlds". Gorr was using stabbing/rot attacks against Thor in this scene in question. You can keep asserting that these stabbing/rotting attacks somehow generated shockwaves, but don't expect anyone with an unbiased mind to even remotely buy it.

You'd be wrong about the Surfer/Ravenous instance as well.


Nope that's the very nature of a SHARED FEAT. It involves two or more active participants. Thor/Exitar not shared. Thor/Gorr shared. Exitar contributed NOTHING to Thor's striking feat because he wasn't actively engaging Thor or even aware of his presence. See the difference?

So you're saying Korvac WASN'T acitvely struggling against the Surfer?

mhmm


Nope. He magnetized the Surfer's skin and it acted like a magnet pulling in all the asteroids in the area, forming a planet, and crushing him inside it.

Korvac wasn't actively engaging him because it took him completely by surprise when Surfer busted his planet and the debris knocked Korvac off his armchair.

Just curious zop, Champion busted a planet fighting Thanos. He gets sole credit for that feat right?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Just curious zop, Champion busted a planet fighting Thanos. He gets sole credit for that feat right?

I can answer that question and the answer is absolutely...

When the Champion destroyed the planet he and Thanos fought on, Thanos teleported away before Champ destroyed the planet...

So Thanos had nothing to do with the planet going boom, while the Champ 100% did...

Okay, so if we were to accept the Gorr feat, is there any other feat?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Just curious zop, Champion busted a planet fighting Thanos. He gets sole credit for that feat right?

Absolutely. That was all Power Gem + Champion. Thanos had zero to do with it.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I can answer that question and the answer is absolutely...

When the Champion destroyed the planet he and Thanos fought on, Thanos teleported away before Champ destroyed the planet...

So Thanos had nothing to do with the planet going boom, while the Champ 100% did...


Voice of reason as almost always 🙂

Originally posted by zopzop
Absolutely. That was all Power Gem + Champion. Thanos had zero to do with it.

Voice of reason as almost always 🙂

I got my moments! 🙂

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay, so [b]if we were to accept the Gorr feat, is there any other feat? [/B]

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor/Bill toss their hammers and destroy Surtur's portal forged out of the remnants of a Galaxy (It dwarfed Planets/Stars):
Notice they didn't even hit the portal itself. The force from the collision of their hammers indirectly obliterated the darn thing.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay, so [b]if we were to accept the Gorr feat, is there any other feat? [/B]

That's all he needs since that answer the question of this thread.

Originally posted by carver9
That's all he needs since that answer the question of this thread.
One question. If a character or whatever appears in various issues a month of say 40+ years. He has one feat which shows him doing that level of power, do you think that is the standard or average ?

If were talking POWER LEVEL, lets remember the times Thor has taken on Skyfathers...

Even if that were the only feat that put thor at planet busting levels, it doesn't have to be his average. Thor proved he can break planets, indirectly no less, so that answers the thread.

Not like he goes around hitting things so hard that his own bones begin to break on a regular basis. He's putting some serious power into those blows.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
One question. If a character or whatever appears in various issues a month of say 40+ years. He has one feat which shows him doing that level of power, do you think that is the standard or average ?

What herald regularly walks around on planet busting levels???
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Originally posted by zopzop
Nope that's the very nature of a SHARED FEAT. It involves two or more active participants. Thor/Exitar not shared. Thor/Gorr shared. Exitar contributed NOTHING to Thor's striking feat because he wasn't actively engaging Thor or even aware of his presence. See the difference?

Repeating "shared feat" and "actively resisting" over and over doesn't change the fact you have ZERO, I repeat ZERO on panel evidence even aluding to Gorr contributing any force that lead to the shattering of the worlds.

It looks like you still haven't gotten the point of my Exitar analogy. Let me repost my point:

Originally posted by Nibedicus
There is as much on panel proof of him providing the force in the scene in question as Exitar did in the scene I cited.

To reiterate, the only thing Gorr was contributing was his face's durability as Thor hit it. As all he did was use stabbing/decay attacks at Thor which don't really cause shockwaves.

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope. He magnetized the Surfer's skin and it acted like a magnet pulling in all the asteroids in the area, forming a planet, and crushing him inside it.

Korvac wasn't actively engaging him because it took him completely by surprise when Surfer busted his planet and the debris knocked Korvac off his armchair.

What does Korvac being caught by surprise by Surfer's power have anything to do with him "actively resisting" him or not? Are you saying that the energy blast he fired and the planet he squished Surfer with was him NOT actively resisting? Sheee....

You might wanna look up what "active" and "resistance" is....

And how exactly is this different from the Surfer/Ravenous instance?

Stabbing would create shock waves too.

Just a lot smaller, seeing as a blade point is like thousands of times less wide than the face of a hammer.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Stabbing would create shock waves too.
Just a lot smaller, seeing as a blade point is like thousands of times less wide than the face of a hammer.

In comics? Not so much...

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Stabbing would create shock waves too.

Just a lot smaller, seeing as a blade point is like thousands of times less wide than the face of a hammer.

You're assuming that the writer meant to use specific physics principles (that is rarely if ever used in comics-I mean, how often have you EVER seen a blade generate shockwaves in comics outside of being charged by energy?) here (which is silly as shockwaves really don't travel in a vacuum without particles to accelerate) and that Gorr's attacks fall under pure physical force (instead some unknown metaphysical shadow force that would ignore physics). All assumptions. All theory.

*facepalm* @Cely

Yeah, Terrax didn't slice a planet in half with an axe far too small to cause any noticeable dent by its own physical size and cross section.

As you can see, In comics, things are even less realistic, so using that kind of retort was dumb. Now shut up. I was correcting a categorical point made from nothing. If you look back, I supported the feat for Thor.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You're assuming that the writer meant to use specific physics principles (that is rarely if ever used in comics-I mean, how often have you EVER seen a blade generate shockwaves in comics outside of being charged by energy?) here (which is silly as shockwaves really don't travel in a vacuum without particles to accelerate) and that Gorr's attacks fall under pure physical force (instead some unknown metaphysical shadow force that would ignore physics). All assumptions. All theory.

All assumptions on your part as well for simply making the categorical statement that blades don't create shockwaves. They do. Even in comics. Not to mention everything you mention counts for Thor as well. Mentioning magic is a red herring anyway, Mjolnir is also magic, and it likewise is known to produces shockwaves in physically impossible situations.

Now, get back to the topic at hand.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
*facepalm* @Cely

Yeah, Terrax didn't slice a planet in half with an axe far too small to cause any noticeable dent by its own physical size and cross section.

As you can see, In comics, things are even less realistic, so using that kind of retort was dumb. Now shut up. I was correcting a categorical point made from nothing. If you look back, I supported the feat for Thor.

You're forgetting the part where Terrax tends to charge his axe with energy. In fact in that very comic you mentioned where he blew up the planet in half he SPECIFICALLY had to cut the energy off his axe in order to defeat his energy-leeching opponent. By cutting him, no shockwaves.