Superman vs A Planet

Started by Branlor Swift13 pages
Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by dmills
Here's another question bran. I had assumed that a handful of cherry picked scans could/would be somewhat confusing because of the lack of context. However, why do I get the impression that if I actually read it in it's entirety, I'd be just as confused?
Because it is confusing, well, maybe not. But the use of "world shattering" isn't the best use of it. And it's used a lot. It's basically confusing if you're feat hunting and you ignore IC5 or just take it literal (Superman destroys a world with a focused blast of HV if we take it literal for example).

It's Earth 1 and 2 Superman living out entire moments of each other's lives in the blink of an eye. How they would have done it and so on. It's where the infamous AM killing Superman scans come from. It's basically a whole shit ton of flashbacks told through how the other would have done so and realizing that they would not have done any better than the other, even though they tried to do so differently and in their way.

It's a great arc though.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That's the theory Carver. At the end of AoS 649 it says that he says a silent prayer for Lois. Lois was dead and that was the reason they fought in IC5. Which means the window of time for the two fights is even shorter than I figured. For that to work, they would have had to have had two fights at the same time. Which I'm sure will be defended as having happened.

Who knows though, we could be both wrong. I haven't read the arc in a while.

So there might be one tiny statement that could be construed into absolute proof of two fights... of course, actually providing that scan would certainly work towards the existence of another fight instead of just saying it with no backing proof.

But I'd have to see it to believe it.


I always go back to the tpb "Superman: Infinite Crisis"...
Collects Infinite Crisis: Secret Files and Origins, Infinite Crisis #5, Superman #226, Action Comics #836, and Adventures of Superman #649.

The first part sets up the story with Lois of earth 2 all sick and Kal-L all sad about it.
2nd part is the beginning and ending of the physical part of their fight.
The last 3 parts show what happened during their physical fight. They share memories as they live through each other's lives at different sections of their timelines. This happens every time they come to blows.

All this in the backdrop of Alexander Luthor mucking up the multiverse.
Pretty much solidifies it was one fight.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Diesldude
On a side note:
I deprived myself of sleep and got the 10 comics that are out. I've read upto #5 and so far it's even better than what you guys have been saying. Current Thor just showed up at the end and thought his future self was Odin.

You guys have a thread to discuss the issues?


Unfortunately there's no separate Thor forum here. At least I don't think there is.

Well... Enjoy it!

Branlor Swift Dead

Originally posted by Diesldude
On a side note:
I deprived myself of sleep and got the 10 comics that are out. I've read upto #5 and so far it's even better than what you guys have been saying. Current Thor just showed up at the end and thought his future self was Odin.

You guys have a thread to discuss the issues?


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=573343

Diesldude Senior Member
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=573343

Thanks, wasn't even aware of this.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=573343

Ah ha!

Muahahaha... Never knew this existed.

Branlor Swift Dead

Comic Book forum is much better than the Vs forum. If a comic is out, there's usually a thread there.

Problem is it also gets way less traffic. But that also keeps it better, so yeah.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

I like Thanos just as much as Quan.

Have you taken leave of your senses ?

Not even close. You make it obvious with the key word, like.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
All I've got to say is Wow! The ridiculousness of this post has reached new levels of stupidity never before seen in these forums.
No, that are your posts.
You are just in complete full denial mode.
I'm the one who's in denial here? Haha.
It's hilarious yet so sad.
In your case, its just sad.
How can I even properly reply now?
Didn't stop you from replying. If its hilarious, it would be easy to deconstruct for someone like you.

Also a huge lulz @ bran's attempts of potshots while having me on ignore list. Nothing compared to accusing me of being a sock of three different posters and trying to get me banned on three different occasions.

A big facepalm at this mob mentality though.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Also facepalm @ this scene being interpreted as that Lois Lane of Earth-2 was dead because of "silent prayer". Both Kal-El and Kal-L are speaking the same thing here, so I guess Lois Lane of earth-1 was dead too, huh?

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, that are your posts. I'm the one who's in denial here? Haha. In your case, its just sad. Didn't stop you from replying. If its hilarious, it would be easy to deconstruct for someone like you.

Also a huge lulz @ bran's attempts of potshots while having me on ignore list. Nothing compared to accusing me of being a sock of three different posters and trying to get me banned on three different occasions.

A big facepalm at this mob mentality though.


Finally crawled out if that rock uve been hiding under eh?

Ok back to the matter at hand.. So u telling me there was more than one fight? U still on that?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Finally crawled out if that rock uve been hiding under eh?

Ok back to the matter at hand.. So u telling me there was more than one fight? U still on that?


I was busy in more important things than owning you on a message forum.

You still without any proof and projecting your own denial over me? If those are the same fights, why was there no HV in IC5 being used while Superman and Kal-L used it many times in their fight under Joe Kelly? Why was there no memory swapping in IC5? Why was Kal-L accusing superman of "hurting" Lois lane in one fight and "Killing" her in another? Most importantly why was the first fight was "To be continued" in IC 5? Have any counter of any of that other than "This post am terriblllllllle, you am in denialllllllllllllllll" post as usual?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Don't worry kids, according to Grampa bran and Celey this is how two same fights with different angles start

to this

Where its explicitly stated that this punch was the start of the fight. Don't underestimate grampa bran and Celey in twisting stuff kids. Ever.

Attacking someone with a car while other was not expecting it=two dudes punching each other apparently. Who cares that one fight had dudes firing HV at each other while other fight was just h2h. It was totly da samme fite, u no. u r jst in denial. DENIALLLLLLLLL.

mmm

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
I was busy in more important things than owning you on a message forum.

lol1

Originally posted by abhilegend
You still without any proof and projecting your own denial over me? If those are the same fights, why was there no HV in IC5 being used while Superman and Kal-L used it many times in their fight under Joe Kelly? Why was there no memory swapping in IC5? Why was Kal-L accusing superman of "hurting" Lois lane in one fight and "Killing" her in another? Most importantly why was the first fight was "To be continued" in IC 5? Have any counter of any of that other than "This post am terriblllllllle, you am in denialllllllllllllllll" post as usual?

Do you know how stooped ure argument is? Asking me why there was no hv in IC#5 and the like... Anyone who reads comics know that tie-ins to major company wide story arcs usually show parts more in depth as the story progresses.
Lol.. They do that all the time. I'm pretty sure u know that too.
Why are u resorting to using nonsense for debating.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't worry kids, according to Grampa bran and Celey this is how two same fights with different angles start

to this

Where its explicitly stated that this punch was the start of the fight. Don't underestimate grampa bran and Celey in twisting stuff kids. Ever.

Attacking someone with a car while other was not expecting it=two dudes punching each other apparently. Who cares that one fight had dudes firing HV at each other while other fight was just h2h. It was totly da samme fite, u no. u r jst in denial. DENIALLLLLLLLL.

mmm


Ahbi man quit it.. The longer you go on, the bigger the failure.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
lol1
There are more important things in life than KMC, its hard to believe for someone like you I guess.

Do you know how stooped ure argument is?
I know just how "stooped" yours is.
Asking me why there was no hv in IC#5 and the like... Anyone who reads comics know that tie-ins to major company wide story arcs usually show parts more in depth as the story progresses.
So let me get this straight, now you're arguing that all of these inconsistencies in a future comic book fight was explained in a previous comic? Do you know how hilariously laughable that is for even an excuse machine like you? Also I'm curious which fight you're talking about?
Lol.. They do that all the time.
They do? They start the same fight with two different styles, kill somebody who's alive in one fight and stuff like that too I guess.
I'm pretty sure u know that too.
Why are u resorting to using nonsense for debating.
A huge lulz @this ironic comment.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ahbi man quit it.. The longer you go on, the bigger the failure.

Concession accepted bran junior.

Now go and cry in a corner.

carver9 Senior Member

ABHI...

If both fights are different, why did they fight twice.? What reason did they fight both times?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI...

If both fights are different, why did they fight twice.? What reason did they fight both times?


Its more like Geoff Johns forgot that the fight was already taking place in superman books and had both superman fight again from start. That's only possible explanation of so many discrepancies in two fights. The logic that these two fights are same and since one doesn't have world breaking apart every time they hit means the one fight where the world broke apart six times doesn't count or that the world breaking isn't world breaking but something else is just laughably stupid btw. The second fight also didn't have them living each other's life either, it had no elements of the first fight to prove anything from the first fight wrong.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
There are more important things in life than KMC, its hard to believe for someone like you I guess.

I know just how "stooped" yours is. So let me get this straight, now you're arguing that all of these inconsistencies in a future comic book fight was explained in a previous comic? Do you know how hilariously laughable that is for even an excuse machine like you? Also I'm curious which fight you're talking about?
They do? They start the same fight with two different styles, kill somebody who's alive in one fight and stuff like that too I guess. A huge lulz @this ironic comment.


I'll give u an example...
Taskmaster was seen in Avengers: The Initiative#32 getting a few shots in on Thor when he was down. We also saw up close look of the main group that brought Thor down. In Seige#1, we don't even see Taskmaster at all. We just saw on overview of the fight and not in detail. During AvngrsIntve#32, we also see Ironclad of the U-Foes getting a shot in as opposed to him just standing in the background in Seige#1. Like I said, tie-ins are almost all the time used to supplement big company wide story arcs...

If you're hand has to be held through everything, it's a wonder how you even post information on anything involving comics...

I guess I have to finally say it. Ure obviously trolling at this point because u've run out of ammunition..