WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by Femi32
That's all that needs to be said on why WB is simply rushing this. They are still too afraid to do anything other than Superman and Batman. It used to be they were too afraid to do anything after Batman and Robin! Everything outside of Superman, Batman, and Watchmen hasn't been received well simply because they were bad movies that didn't respect the source material. Maybe they should make a good movie that respects the source material and they won't have to fear anything.

i agree...

Originally posted by Golgo13
Heh, I agree with him. Marvel way isn't the only way.

tell that to Darth Vader and Palpatine 🙂 😛

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The whole appeal of Avengers and Justice League was putting together all these popular heroes. That's the excitement. Marvel made Iron Man popular, and Thor popular and Captain America popular. Hulk was already well known. Then putting all these already popular heroes together was all sorts of excitement.

Otherwise doing the team up movie first they are going to reduce the appeal of a Massive team up franchise to the level of X-Men or GOTG. Which can still be good, but won't have the Super Massive appeal of Avengers.

That's why I keep saying Batman V Superman will be DC's biggest hit. Not Justice League. Because B V S is putting 2 massive franchises together. And introducing the biggest female superhero. Whilst JL is just going to add a whole load of "others".

Also GOTG gets away with not giving Origin stories because everyone is an alien. Once you're out in space coming across different species with different abilities you just accept it all. Will be different when several random superheroes show up on Earth. Most of whom are human and whose powers are completely unrelated.

Originally posted by Femi32
That's all that needs to be said on why WB is simply rushing this. They are still too afraid to do anything other than Superman and Batman. It used to be they were too afraid to do anything after Batman and Robin! Everything outside of Superman, Batman, and Watchmen hasn't been received well simply because they were bad movies that didn't respect the source material. Maybe they should make a good movie that respects the source material and they won't have to fear anything.

Agreed.

Also IMO the Marvel formula is brilliant and has worked very well, but it isnt the only way to approach a cinematic universe. It could be the most effective though and cuddos to them for having the balls to do it.

anyhow...

I dont agree with this guy comparing x-men or guardians of the galaxy as to why some DC characters dont need origin stories.
Hes totally missing some important points.
As far as cramming a bunch of heroes into one movie, The X-men dont need too much explanation as far as origin stories for each character because, they are ALL mutants. The end. Thats why they have special abilities. You could spend a few minutes on the most important members like wolverine, cyclops, Prof.X, magneto, etc on a few flashbacks on their origin and such and it will work.
Guardian of the Galaxy are like D or F listers. Little or not well known characters work better as a team movies. Like the first star wars and watchmen.
That formula wont work on very popular characters and icons.
You cant just say "oh that powerful female that just appeared she is an amazonian and has a magic rope", "anyhow , so yeah Bruce Wayne is going to visit Lex Luthor today", "oh who that water guy?" "oh , thats aquaman I think he is from the ocean".
You cant half ass origins for characters like WW, aquaman, green lantern, Flash.
cyborg, yeah sure, but not the popular ones.

^ Exactly!

Originally posted by Golgo13
Heh, I agree with him. Marvel way isn't the only way.

Doing A Duo movie like Batman V Superman is a way that's different to Marvel, which is great.

But for Avengers or Justice League you have to have solo franchises for the 3-4 main characters before Justice League. Because that's the whole point of Avengers and Justice League.

But if you just want a superhero team for DC that's not made up of multiple solo franchises, then do a "Legion of Superheroes" movie or something. Just don't ruin the whole purpose and appeal of Justice League.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Doing A Duo movie like Batman V Superman is a way that's different to Marvel, which is great.

But for Avengers or Justice League you have to have solo franchises for the 3-4 main characters before Justice League. Because that's the whole point of Avengers and Justice League.

But if you just want a superhero team for DC that's not made up of multiple solo franchises, then do a "Legion of Superheroes" movie or something. Just don't ruin the whole purpose and appeal of Justice League.

We will see. All I care about is the movie being good. If it does achieve that, then I don't care how they do it. We will agree to disagree until the final product comes out.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Agreed.

Also IMO the Marvel formula is brilliant and has worked very well, but it isnt the only way to approach a cinematic universe. It could be the most effective though and cuddos to them for having the balls to do it.

anyhow...

I dont agree with this guy comparing x-men or guardians of the galaxy as to why some DC characters dont need origin stories.
Hes totally missing some important points.
As far as cramming a bunch of heroes into one movie, The X-men dont need too much explanation as far as origin stories for each character because, they are ALL mutants. The end. Thats why they have special abilities. You could spend a few minutes on the most important members like wolverine, cyclops, Prof.X, magneto, etc on a few flashbacks on their origin and such and it will work.
Guardian of the Galaxy are like D or F listers. Little or not well known characters work better as a team movies. Like the first star wars and watchmen.
That formula wont work on very popular characters and icons.
You cant just say "oh that powerful female that just appeared she is an amazonian and has a magic rope", "anyhow , so yeah Bruce Wayne is going to visit Lex Luthor today", "oh who that water guy?" "oh , thats aquaman I think he is from the ocean".
You cant half ass origins for characters like WW, aquaman, green lantern, Flash.
cyborg, yeah sure, but not the popular ones.

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.. WELL SAID..

Originally posted by Golgo13
We will see. All I care about is the movie being good. If it does achieve that, then I don't care how they do it. We will agree to disagree until the final product comes out.

Oh it could very well be good. Just like Watchmen was a great movie.

But it's going to lose a lot of the Epicness Justice League is supposed to have, and will unlikely match Avengers in that scope. Which is why I think ninstead of marketing Justice League through Batman V Superman, they should just concentrate on the core story and characters of Batman V Superman. Because that's what has more potential be DC's massive/epic hit Imho.

Btw can I just ask you why you want a Justice League film if it's not going to be built up by other franchises? I mean there are other teams whose characters were created solely for those teams. Because if it's just a matter of JL is better known than the other teams, GOTG just proved that doesn't matter. What matters is the Quality of the movie (and of course the Marketing).

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh it could very well be good. Just like Watchmen was a great movie.

But it's going to lose a lot of the Epicness Justice League is supposed to have, and will unlikely match Avengers in that scope. Which is why I think ninstead of marketing Justice League through Batman V Superman, they should just concentrate on the core story and characters of Batman V Superman. Because that's what has more potential be DC's massive/epic hit Imho.

Btw can I just ask you why you want a Justice League film if it's not going to be built up by other franchises? I mean there are other teams whose characters were created solely for those teams. Because if it's just a matter of JL is better known than the other teams, GOTG just proved that doesn't matter. What matters is the Quality of the movie (and of course the Marketing).

It IS going to build into other franchises. I doubt they won't have a Flash and GL movie at one point. Hell, suposedly they will have a teamup movie, which is a breath of fresh air.

So, BVS is moving. 2 months less for waiting.

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

Also, WB released their game plan on their next movies.

Untitled DC Film - 08/05/16

Untitled DC Film - 06/23/17

Untitled DC Film - 11/17/17

Untitled DC Film - 03/23/18

Untitled DC Film - 07/27/18

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/16/18

Untitled DC Film - 04/05/19

Untitled DC Film - 06/14/19

Untitled DC Film - 04/03/20

Untitled DC Film - 06/19/20

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/20/20

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, BVS is moving. 2 months less for waiting.

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

Also, WB released their game plan on their next movies.

THANK YOU! It's about damn time. Now let's hope DC doesn't mess this up and gives Marvel some competition.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, BVS is moving. 2 months less for waiting.

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

Also, WB released their game plan on their next movies.

i thought they sad they weren't moving 😂 😂

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
THANK YOU! It's about damn time. Now let's hope DC doesn't mess this up and gives Marvel some competition.

they'll find a way to mess it up.. 😂

I wonder what the event films are. Justice league?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh it could very well be good. Just like Watchmen was a great movie.

As For DC, I'm hoping they really hit it out of the park so we can have a healthy rivalry. As any business goes, it's good to have competition...

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb

As For DC, I'm hoping they really hit it out of the park so we can have a healthy rivalry. As any business goes, it's good to have competition...

👆
Yep. Keep both companies on their toes. Giving us all such great superhero movies that we forget there's even a difference between Marvel and Dc.

Remember fox and Sony too.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I wonder what the event films are. Justice league?

But why does it say WB Event film and not just DC Event film? Interesting..

Anyway this is different to the rumoured list which was 3 movies a year. This is 2 films a year. Which is more manageable. But also means some of those films on the rumoured list won't be happening any time soon.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, BVS is moving. 2 months less for waiting.

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

Also, WB released their game plan on their next movies.

"this isn't freedom, this is fear"

It's actually a smart move for Wb, because potentially they can be #1 for a good 3-4 weeks. It's all about those Benjamins. 😛

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But why does it say WB Event film and not just DC Event film? Interesting..

Anyway this is different to the rumoured list which was 3 movies a year. This is 2 films a year. Which is more manageable. But also means some of those films on the rumoured list won't be happening any time soon.

I'm not saying it is justice league, just guessing. Some say it could be Matrix 4. But is that really an event?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
But why does it say WB Event film and not just DC Event film? Interesting..

I think this is what will eventually be the DCU's downfall. We have Warner Brothers Studios announcing the DC films simultaneously with their own potential non-DC related movies. Not that big of a deal on the surface, but Kevin Feige doesn't mix with Star Wars and Lucasfilm doesn't mess with Marvel (except for Howard The Duck, but that was the 80's... the bad 80's... the drugs 80's). Anyway, if Disney has learned to let the COMIC BOOK company make its COMIC BOOK movies, Warner Brothers should do the same. If there was a DC Studios like there is a Marvel Studios, where they're their own boss, there wouldn't be this injustice that have been the DC movies up until recently. Phew, wow... anyway, it will boil down to which movie studio allows the comic book people more freedom.

So, Darth Power, I believe Warner Brothers would mix something like The Matrix with their DCU announcement.