WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Yeah Marvel and DC just run their verses different.

Weather you like how they do superman or not (for the record I dislike some aspects, like treating him like his story is objectively better then any other heroes development) but that is how he is done. For better or worse he is the most important person there.

And that wouldn't work for marvel so he would have to be changed. Could the change be better? Sure but even if it was, he wouldn't be Superman anymore.

Lets say Disney buys WB/DC. Why would any of you think they would mix both Marvel and DC into one universe, where both companies characters co-exist?
I think they would keep them separate. Probably keep most of the people writing the stories as well.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Marvel has always had a hard time putting singular heroes at the top of the chain. If they were going to have Superman in Marvel, he couldn't exist alongside the Hulks and Thor's of the world, especially seeing as Marvel would want to completely alter his role in the world.
You think Superman is bad NOW? He'd be far worse if he was brought in to the Marvel Universe.

I already stated that I think they would keep both universes separate. BUT lets speculate if they merged.
I actually think that making everything less dependent on superman would be for the better.
when you say "role", do you mean everything basically revolving around him?
I mean its kinda ridiculous as it is. If any threat happens to the earth or the universe you can bet superman, or an alt version, clone, younger, older, version of him is right there in the middle of it and most of the time he is the one saving the day. Thats like Spiderman (just cause he is the most popular marvel hero), being involved in everything and also saving the day. IMO its kinda dumb. I know its a bit different but you get what im getting at.
I think less of that would actually make superman a better character and more likable as well.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I wasn't thinking of them combining universes. I thought it would just be Marvel having control over both studios. If you meant combining then yeah, it would just be a mess altogether. Earth isn't big enough for that many heroes.

Even if they kept them separate, which I honestly doubt, I honestly can't see them allowing DC to continue to do things "their way".

Originally posted by Inhuman
Lets say Disney buys WB/DC. Why would any of you think they would mix both Marvel and DC into one universe, where both companies characters co-exist?
I think they would keep them separate. Probably keep most of the people writing the stories as well.

I already stated that I think they would keep both universes separate. BUT lets speculate if they merged.
I actually think that making everything less dependent on superman would be for the better.
when you say "role", do you mean everything basically revolving around him?
I mean its kinda ridiculous as it is. If any threat happens to the earth or the universe you can bet superman, or an alt version, clone, younger, older, version of him is right there in the middle of it and most of the time he is the one saving the day. Thats like Spiderman (just cause he is the most popular marvel hero), being involved in everything and also saving the day. IMO its kinda dumb. I know its a bit different but you get what im getting at.
I think less of that would actually make superman a better character and more likable as well.

that isn't what Superman is, though.

He's a figurehead in terms of popularity within the universe, but not everything revolves around him. There are entire arcs where he's barely there, events even in the last few years that barely feature him.

I honestly don't see what's wrong with his actual character, but that's me.

Originally posted by -Pr-

He's a figurehead in terms of popularity within the universe, but not everything revolves around him.

Final Crisis says otherwise uhuh

Originally posted by -Pr-

"probably" isn't much.

for you, however it is enough for me to know that he is still somehow involved

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if they kept them separate, which I honestly doubt, I honestly can't see them allowing DC to continue to do things "their way".

that isn't what Superman is, though.

He's a figurehead in terms of popularity within the universe, but not everything revolves around him. There are entire arcs where he's barely there, events even in the last few years that barely feature him.

I honestly don't see what's wrong with his actual character, but that's me.

I think they would keep both universes separate, but there would likely be a lot of firing for sure. Both DC and Marvel would likely share comic studios. I don't think Disney would combine universes because this will piss off too many fans of both universes. However, there will be plenty of crossovers for sure. In terms of movies, both universes would be separate as well but will also have crossover movies. DC would get it's own studio head like Kevin Feige. Look at how Disney handles Marvel, Pixar, and Star Wars. Disney lets them do what they want under certain guidelines and then uses their wide media influences to distribute and promote these movies.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
I wasn't thinking of them combining universes. I thought it would just be Marvel having control over both studios. If you meant combining then yeah, it would just be a mess altogether. Earth isn't big enough for that many heroes.

Remember it would be Disney buying WB. Not Marvel buying DC. There is a difference. Disney would likely leave the running of DC to the DC guys. Chances are DC would get more independence the way Disney have given Marvel.

The only difference I see (besides more crossovers) is get help, aid, consultation e.t.c for DC movies from Marvel studios.

Heck could even transfer all DC movies productions to Marvel Studios.

Still like I already said, it would likely benefit DC movies in the short term but in the long term the lack of rivalry between the 2 would likely hurt both Marvel And DC.

Why is WB even for sale?

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Why is WB even for sale?

It's not. Just Fox put in a bid for them which got turned down. And now other studios have got excited thinking maybe they can buy them. And people here are excited at the thought of Disney buying them thinking they would be better off that way because Marvel is.

Originally posted by Golgo13
From the sounds of it, they totally scrapped Goyer's script, which Terrio rewrote. That's a good thing. WB doesn't really need a separate studio. They just need to make good decisions.

I'm glad they've switched script writers to Terrio. MOS had a good story with great action sequences. But some of the Dialogue was pretty bad.

To be fair WB does make other great sci-fi/hero films like Pacific Rim and Matrix. And even great DC ones like TDK Trilogy and Watchmen (even though Watchmen lacked good marketing and buzz). But with their DC Universe they just need to make a plan and stick it out even if something doesn't go to plan.

The Incredible Hulk didn't do too well financially. And was definitely below studio expectations. But Marvel didn't just freeze all their shared universe plans because of it. They carried on with their plan and it turned out great.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
Final Crisis says otherwise uhuh

it actually doesn't. he was missing for large parts of the story, and they only won in the end because he had massive help.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
for you, however it is enough for me to know that he is still somehow involved

how? saying someone is "probably" involved, isn't proof at all. 😬

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I think they would keep both universes separate, but there would likely be a lot of firing for sure. Both DC and Marvel would likely share comic studios. I don't think Disney would combine universes because this will piss off too many fans of both universes. However, there will be plenty of crossovers for sure. In terms of movies, both universes would be separate as well but will also have crossover movies. DC would get it's own studio head like Kevin Feige. Look at how Disney handles Marvel, Pixar, and Star Wars. Disney lets them do what they want under certain guidelines and then uses their wide media influences to distribute and promote these movies.

I don't trust marvel to watch over dc. period. they've ****ed up enough of their own characters that I really don't trust them.

Disney, I would like to believe would be better, but I honestly can't be sure.

that said, I would like to see dc have more power in terms of what movies get made. WB holding all the cards is not a plus, and never will be imo. The only benefit they really bring is funding.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it actually doesn't. he was missing for large parts of the story, and they only won in the end because he massive help

I was referring to superman beyond actually when I said that more then the main arc

Originally posted by -Pr-

how? saying someone is "probably" involved, isn't proof at all. 😬

Oh I see the old "proof " bullshiite again.. so where actually is your proof that Goyer isn't involved in any way shape or form regarding any and i do mean any dc comic book film???

Goyer is still involved. His presence at comic con is proof of that. But the fact that they brought in Terrio to rewrite his Batman V Superman script shows WB are not putting all the cards in his hands anymore.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Goyer is still involved. His presence at comic con is proof of that. But the fact that they brought in Terrio to rewrite his Batman V Superman script shows WB are not putting all the cards in his hands anymore.

i agree and they shouldn't .. it's always good to have a lot of writers working on something which in turn will make us fans get up and go see and hopefully enjoy

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I'm glad they've switched script writers to Terrio. MOS had a good story with great action sequences. But some of the Dialogue was pretty bad.

To be fair WB does make other great sci-fi/hero films like Pacific Rim and Matrix. And even great DC ones like TDK Trilogy and Watchmen (even though Watchmen lacked good marketing and buzz). But with their DC Universe they just need to make a plan and stick it out even if something doesn't go to plan.

The Incredible Hulk didn't do too well financially. And was definitely below studio expectations. But Marvel didn't just freeze all their shared universe plans because of it. They carried on with their plan and it turned out great.

Mad Max looks awesome, too. 😄

Originally posted by -Pr-
it actually doesn't. he was missing for large parts of the story, and they only won in the end because he had massive help.

how? saying someone is "probably" involved, isn't proof at all. 😬

I don't trust marvel to watch over dc. period. they've ****ed up enough of their own characters that I really don't trust them.

Disney, I would like to believe would be better, but I honestly can't be sure.

that said, I would like to see dc have more power in terms of what movies get made. WB holding all the cards is not a plus, and never will be imo. The only benefit they really bring is funding.

Disney owning the company doesnt really mean that Marvel gets creative control over DC though. It would be disney calling the shots and they could see it more beneficial to keep the Marvel/DC rivalry going stronger than ever, only Disney benefits every step of the way.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Disney owning the company doesnt really mean that Marvel gets creative control over DC though. It would be disney calling the shots and they could see it more beneficial to keep the Marvel/DC rivalry going stronger than ever, only Disney benefits every step of the way.

And maybe Disney lets DC do their own thing like they do with Marvel. You know, let the comic book people make the comic book movies.

Originally posted by Lek Kuen
I was referring to superman beyond actually when I said that more then the main arc

Superman Beyond was a Superman event though 😛

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Oh I see the old "proof " bullshiite again.. so where actually is your proof that Goyer isn't involved in any way shape or form regarding any and i do mean any dc comic book film???

So you want me to prove a negative, but any proof I offer you would be bullshit anyway?

Even if Goyer is still involved, the fact that they took the script away from him shows that he obviously isn't their favourite anymore. Add that to comments he made about certain DC characters, and would YOU trust him?

I wouldn't.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Disney owning the company doesnt really mean that Marvel gets creative control over DC though. It would be disney calling the shots and they could see it more beneficial to keep the Marvel/DC rivalry going stronger than ever, only Disney benefits every step of the way.

Disney would have control over both, though, and I really don't want to see them influencing movies so that they're all "samey". I like that we have variety between the Marvel and DC movies in how they're approached, personally.

Originally posted by SpaceMonkey
And maybe Disney lets DC do their own thing like they do with Marvel. You know, let the comic book people make the comic book movies.

They didn't leave Marvel alone when they bought them, though. They moved around staff, and after they bought Marvel, several things changed in just the comics sense.

I am really glad that the movies are doing well (bar what they're doing with Pym. Seriously, wtf), and I loved GOTG. I just really don't believe Disney would give DC free reign. They didn't with Marvel, imo.

The only things Disney really effed up for Marvel was the cartoons. From top to bottom. But I believe everything going on with the movies was Marvel's plan from start to finish. I can't really think of any other ways Disney is supposedly interfering.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
The only things Disney really effed up for Marvel was the cartoons.

Nah that's down to Jeph Loeb.