WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by Zack M
Brainiac is more of a Superman villain and I'd like to see him used in a Superman movie.

At least with Doomsday, he started out as a team threat, so it only makes sense to bring him in to fight the JLA.

Injustice is waaay too early. They haven't even introduced the Joker yet. He'll be in the Suicide Squad in August.

Amazo could work, but they would never go that route, because Avengers just introduced Ultron.

General? Martians? No thanks.

Doomsday is a Superman villain as much as Brainiac is. There are other team-busters that would work better, imo.

Originally posted by Zack M
It could very well be just Luthor. Doomsday isn't confirmed or anything.

Or maybe Luthor creates DD. That would be interesting, IMO.

What I don't want is DD to appear in MOS 2 and get beaten by just one hero.

I thought Kurse was horribly dealt with in Thor TDW.

Doomsday isn't Kurse, and he is, by his very concept, designed to beat, and be beaten by, Superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Doomsday is a Superman villain as much as Brainiac is. There are other team-busters that would work better, imo.

Doomsday isn't Kurse, and he is, by his very concept, designed to beat, and be beaten by, Superman.

Agree to disagree. I'd rather see DD than General or Martians. If they introduce Martians, they'll have to introduce Manhunter and he's not going to be in this.

DD would work better in the JL part one. Then maybe Darkseid in Part 2.

Originally posted by Zack M
Agree to disagree. I'd rather see DD than General or Martians. If they introduce Martians, they'll have to introduce Manhunter and he's not going to be in this.

DD would work better in the JL part one. Then maybe Darkseid in Part 2.

I still don't think they should use Doomsday outside of a Superman movie, at least at first. There are other options, and I'd argue that someone like Eiling or Shaggy Man or Amazo would work better. shrug

Darkseid in part 2? Is that not a bit... Early?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I still don't think they should use Doomsday outside of a Superman movie, at least at first. There are other options, and I'd argue that someone like Eiling or Shaggy Man or Amazo would work better. shrug

Darkseid in part 2? Is that not a bit... Early?

I honestly don't get "too early" arguments. If the movie is good, adding DD isn't going to take it down a notch, IMO. Same with Darkseid. It's all about how it's executed and played out.

If the rumors are true, it's not even going to be the traditional DD. Something a bit different.

Shaggy Man is just boring, IMO. Not someone who I'd use in a big film like this.

Originally posted by Zack M
I honestly don't get "too early" arguments. If the movie is good, adding DD isn't going to take it down a notch, IMO. Same with Darkseid. It's all about how it's executed and played out.

If the rumors are true, it's not even going to be the traditional DD. Something a bit different.

Shaggy Man is just boring, IMO. Not someone who I'd use in a big film like this.

Too early as in, theyre not taking the time to build them up as a big deal.

Something different doesn't mean they can get away with cheapening the importance of the character.

The Chitauri weren't setting the world on fire. But we had Loki to offset them. Luthor would easily fill that role. Or Eiling without powers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Too early as in, theyre not taking the time to build them up as a big deal.

Something different doesn't mean they can get away with cheapening the importance of the character.

The Chitauri weren't setting the world on fire. But we had Loki to offset them. Luthor would easily fill that role. Or Eiling without powers.

We know Luthor is the villain, though. Or at least one of them. Whatever Snyder is going with, I'm intrigued.

They're was a rumor a while ago, on how it could very well be Atlantis/Aquaman, so I don't know if that's true or not.

I haven't heard any rumors of Darkseid or Brainiac.

Originally posted by Zack M
We know Luthor is the villain, though. Or at least one of them. Whatever Snyder is going with, I'm intrigued.

They're was a rumor a while ago, on how it could very well be Atlantis/Aquaman, so I don't know if that's true or not.

I haven't heard any rumors of Darkseid or Brainiac.

I just think it's an utter waste to use Doomsday, and it takes away quite a bit from him to dilute him like that imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just think it's an utter waste to use Doomsday, and it takes away quite a bit from him to dilute him like that imo.

If he's the big bad in JL, I don't think it would be a waste. We'll see.

Originally posted by Zack M
If he's the big bad in JL, I don't think it would be a waste. We'll see.

The entire point of the character is to be a Superman villain that kills/is killed by Superman. There's an absolutely massive psychological element to the character, and the meaning he has to the Superman character.

If they take that away and just make him a big bad for the League, then I really don't see how that dignifies the character.

Just imo.

Superman could still be the one to kill him, but in the comics, it usually takes multiple heroes to beat DD. Not just Superman.

Originally posted by Zack M

What I don't want is DD to appear in MOS 2 and get beaten by just one hero.

Doomsday was created to be beaten by one hero. In the single greatest story hes ever been apart of. Besides it ends up being more of a stalemate anyway.

Come to think of it, Death of Superman could be just the thing to change public perception of Superman for the better.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
Doomsday was created to be beaten by one hero. In the single greatest story hes ever been apart of. Besides it ends up being more of a stalemate anyway.

Come to think of it, Death of Superman could be just the thing to change public perception of Superman for the better.

In DOS Superman barely beat him. DD still fought a JL version, which could be in the movie.

Superman COULD very well beat him in BVS, depending on what type of DD Snyder uses.

After that, Superman generally needed help in defeating uber versions of DD.

Originally posted by Zack M
Superman could still be the one to kill him, but in the comics, it usually takes multiple heroes to beat DD. Not just Superman.

Superman is always seen as the figurehead even when he has help, and more often than not, he beats Doomsday himself.

Doomsday isn't a JLA villain, He's a Superman villain.

Removing the psychological aspect of that, and how it affects Superman, greatly damages a villain that already doesn't have a whole lot to go on bar "indestructible brick", imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman is always seen as the figurehead even when he has help, and more often than not, he beats Doomsday himself.

Doomsday isn't a JLA villain, He's a Superman villain.

Removing the psychological aspect of that, and how it affects Superman, greatly damages a villain that already doesn't have a whole lot to go on bar "indestructible brick", imo.

Yes, and the same could be said with the upcoming movie. It will focus as the Superman mythology, but will need help from other heroes. Just like the comics.

And from the rumors, it looks like it will be just that. However, they are only rumors at this point.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yes, and the same could be said with the upcoming movie. It will focus as the Superman mythology, but will need help from other heroes. Just like the comics.

And from the rumors, it looks like it will be just that. However, they are only rumors at this point.

You're twisting my words.

Just rumours is fine by me, as long as they stay that way.

I really want this to be a Batman/Superman movie and not a Justice League part 1 movie.

I'd be much happier with the villains for this being Luthor and Joker than some world destroying threat like Doomsday.

In any case I agree Doomsday would be much better for a MOS Sequel rather than a JL movie.

Originally posted by Zack M
In DOS Superman barely beat him. DD still fought a JL version, which could be in the movie.

Superman COULD very well beat him in BVS, depending on what type of DD Snyder uses.

After that, Superman generally needed help in defeating uber versions of DD.

All that, DD fighting a version of the JL then the main showdown with Clark is what a man of steel 3 should be. They cant cram all that into BVS naturally unless somebody gets the short end of the stick, likely DD.

Most of the film will be BVS, but naturally whoever the villain will be will unite the seven. It is called Dawn of Justice.

I think Luthor will be pulling all the strings.

As for the big bad in MOS, I think it should be Brainiac, not DD.

Originally posted by Zack M
As for the big bad in MOS, I think it should be Brainiac, not DD.

There should be more than 1 sequel I hope.

DD would make for the best sequel IMO. The Ultimate showdown and sacrifice.