Originally posted by -Pr-Daniel Craig as Bond created quite a stir also.
you think anyone thinks that way about most superhero movies?Keaton, RDJ, Bale, Evans, Ledger, Ruffallo, Hathaway etc, all had their detractors when they were originally cast.
Very few, if ANY actors, come in to superhero movies with the "born to play" mojo, at least in terms of how they're seen by the public.
Originally posted by -Pr-
you think anyone thinks that way about most superhero movies?Keaton, RDJ, Bale, Evans, Ledger, Ruffallo, Hathaway etc, all had their detractors when they were originally cast.
Very few, if ANY actors, come in to superhero movies with the "born to play" mojo, at least in terms of how they're seen by the public.
I wouldnt put RDJ in that list. He was born to play tony stark. 😄
Originally posted by -Pr-
you think anyone thinks that way about most superhero movies?Keaton, RDJ, Bale, Evans, Ledger, Ruffallo, Hathaway etc, all had their detractors when they were originally cast.
Very few, if ANY actors, come in to superhero movies with the "born to play" mojo, at least in terms of how they're seen by the public.
lol Bale, RDJ and Ledger were born to play comic book characters
Originally posted by Golgo13
I wouldnt put RDJ in that list. He was born to play tony stark. 😄
I agree. But a lot of people didn't at the time.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lol Bale, RDJ and Ledger were born to play comic book characters
In hindsight, sure, if that's your opinion. At the time? No. They had fanboys screaming about how they were gonna suck.
Christian Bale - was well received by the fanboys, thanks to American Psycho more than anything else.
RDJ - I remember my reaction was, excellent actor but isn't he a bit too old? I imagined the film having Tony in his late 20's, early 30's. And he had that rep of being unreliable thanks to a plague of drug arrests. But he turned out to be a bullseye.
Heath Ledger - I shrugged, really. Nolan had already cast Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow, so I knew he wasn't going for the Nicolas Cage psycho mugging type with his villains. And Batman Begins turned out to be the Batman film we were really waiting for, so I trusted his casting notions. In Nolan We Trust - remember that catchphrase going around?
The hate for RDJ, wasn't that big. But there was some there. Thing about him was no one was expecting him to own the role the way he did.
Now Heath Ledger there was a lot of hate for at first. But I'm pretty sure when the first trailer came out everyone could see that he was going to play a Great Joker.
And hey, I still trust in Nolan. Say what you want about TDKR, but it was no Matrix Revolutions or Spider-Man 3. Not even close. And in my honest opinon (and in many other people's opinion too) the Dark Knight Trilogy was the best series of superhero films we've had to date (Although that will likely change after Avengers 2).
Originally posted by -Pr-
you think anyone thinks that way about most superhero movies?Keaton, RDJ, Bale, Evans, Ledger, Ruffallo, Hathaway etc, all had their detractors when they were originally cast.
Very few, if ANY actors, come in to superhero movies with the "born to play" mojo, at least in terms of how they're seen by the public.
Actually quite a few people I talk to (casual fans or otherwise) will have strong opinions on casting and whether or not the actor embodied the character. It does matter, not really enough to dent the revenue of a movie called Batman vs Superman, but that's not the point. Not everyone is goint to be on board with anyone cast, but guys like RDJ, Hemsworth, Cavill, hiddleston, etc, could be seen as the characters or at least close before the first film photos were shown, and I would say the majority were supportive of those choices before the first trailers.
Originally posted by roughrider
Christian Bale - was well received by the fanboys, thanks to American Psycho more than anything else.RDJ - I remember my reaction was, excellent actor but isn't he a bit too old? I imagined the film having Tony in his late 20's, early 30's. And he had that rep of being unreliable thanks to a plague of drug arrests. But he turned out to be a bullseye.
Heath Ledger - I shrugged, really. Nolan had already cast Cillian Murphy as Scarecrow, so I knew he wasn't going for the Nicolas Cage psycho mugging type with his villains. And Batman Begins turned out to be the Batman film we were really waiting for, so I trusted his casting notions. In Nolan We Trust - remember that catchphrase going around?
I remember quite a few people thinking Bale wasn't a good fit. Of course, plenty thought he'd be good, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Actually quite a few people I talk to (casual fans or otherwise) will have strong opinions on casting and whether or not the actor embodied the character. It does matter, not really enough to dent the revenue of a movie called Batman vs Superman, but that's not the point. Not everyone is goint to be on board with anyone cast, but guys like RDJ, Hemsworth, Cavill, hiddleston, etc, could be seen as the characters or at least close before the first film photos were shown, and I would say the majority were supportive of those choices before the first trailers.
Having opinions is fine. But how many actors, when they were announced, were wildly believed to be "born" to play their characters? Very few, and very much the minority.
it depends on how you view Luthor. I can see him as Luthor, and i'd like to think I've read as many Superman comics as most people.
When I said born to play it was really more of an exaggeration than to be taken literally. I mean someone who looks the part and whose body of work contains evidence that they can play the role. IMO the look in a comic book movie is almost as important as them portraying the character faithfully (one reason I can't stand the recent human torch casting) Eisenberg may have the talent, but imo, I haven't seen a role that immediately makes me think he's great for the role of Lex (at least the characterization of Lex that is most commonly portrayed in media)
Originally posted by JayDaDon
When I said born to play it was really more of an exaggeration than to be taken literally. I mean someone who looks the part and whose body of work contains evidence that they can play the role. IMO the look in a comic book movie is almost as important as them portraying the character faithfully (one reason I can't stand the recent human torch casting) Eisenberg may have the talent, but imo, I haven't seen a role that immediately makes me think he's great for the role of Lex (at least the characterization of Lex that is most commonly portrayed in media)
I don't think we've seen anything that blatantly says "Eisenberg is a really good choice for Lex Luthor". People wouldn't be so divided otherwise.
From what I have seen of him, though, there's something there. Enough to make me think "all right, this could be interesting".
I'm not going to pretend Eisenberg is the perfect casting choice for Luthor. He isn't. Not for the Luthor most often portrayed in the comics. Hell, even Cranston, a man that wouldn't have been my first choice, was a more obvious candidate to me.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Snyder, for me, delivered with MOS. If the sequel delivers on its promise and we get the movie that brings us more towards a more universally liked Superman, then I do think Eisenberg will have a large role in that. So for now, cautious. Very cautious. But not cynical just yet.
If I was in charge of Justice League casting
Director: Neil Blomkamp/Ben Affleck/Christopher Nolan
Screenplay: Terry Rossio/Chris Terrio
Superman - Henry Caville (of course)
Batman: Richard Armitage
Wonder Woman: Jaime Alexander
Aquaman: Liam McIntyre
Green Lantern: Idris Elba
Flash: Garrett Hedlund
Martian Manhunter: Peter Mensah
Lex Luthor: Joaquin Phoenix
Doomsday: Jason Momoa
Originally posted by -Pr-
None of those are bad choices. I'd have my own preferences, for sure, but still a solid list.Except Terrio obviously. No idea if he can write a superhero movie.
What would you change from the list?
Also I don't think superhero stories should be treated any different from regular stories. If a writer is capable of writing good dialogues and plots, then his/her experience in superheroes shouldn't be relevant.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Bale was decent, so i wouldnt go that far . Ledger was a totalsurprise and hatdky anyone knew he was going to be that good.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I agree. But a lot of people didn't at the time.In hindsight, sure, if that's your opinion. At the time? No. They had fanboys screaming about how they were gonna suck.
you know im a fanboy but i wasn't saying that..
Originally posted by JayDaDon
When I said born to play it was really more of an exaggeration than to be taken literally. I mean someone who looks the part and whose body of work contains evidence that they can play the role. IMO the look in a comic book movie is almost as important as them portraying the character faithfully (one reason I can't stand the recent human torch casting) Eisenberg may have the talent, but imo, I haven't seen a role that immediately makes me think he's great for the role of Lex (at least the characterization of Lex that is most commonly portrayed in media)
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Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think we've seen anything that blatantly says "Eisenberg is a really good choice for Lex Luthor". People wouldn't be so divided otherwise.From what I have seen of him, though, there's something there. Enough to make me think "all right, this could be interesting".
I'm not going to pretend Eisenberg is the perfect casting choice for Luthor. He isn't. Not for the Luthor most often portrayed in the comics. Hell, even Cranston, a man that wouldn't have been my first choice, was a more obvious candidate to me.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Snyder, for me, delivered with MOS. If the sequel delivers on its promise and we get the movie that brings us more towards a more universally liked Superman, then I do think Eisenberg will have a large role in that. So for now, cautious. Very cautious. But not cynical just yet.
can you photoshop a photo of eisenberg with a bald head??
coming soon tom a theater near you
Originally posted by ares834
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Does he have to be bald? Really?
Originally posted by Firefly218
What would you change from the list?Also I don't think superhero stories should be treated any different from regular stories. If a writer is capable of writing good dialogues and plots, then his/her experience in superheroes shouldn't be relevant.
wonder woman, i'd prefer gemma arterton. Aquaman, I dunno. That guy isn't bad, but I think they could do better.
it should be, but sadly on many occasions, it doesn't turn out that way.