Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Originally posted by Esau Cairn

And yeah we also know they make peace & form the JLA but we also know that Cap & IM will still be part of The Avengers no matter the outcome of CW.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It shouldn't be though. It's way too early for their version of Avengers Imo.

Nah he means it's closer. In the sense that it's like, heroes meeting.

Plot structure wise, that's more similar than Civil War, in which heroes who already know each other are forced to fight.

JUSTICE LEAGUE will be their version of The Avengers, if you follow

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No we don't. We know that RDJ is going to be in Infinity War, but at what capacity? What about Cap? Winter Soldier was a game changer and the Russo Bros. have said this one will be too. So...all we know is that Cap and Iron Man survive. That's pretty much it. Everything else is a mystery. We've already seen the movie of BvS from the trailer.

I dunno about that. I mean, they TOLD us that Winter Soldier is a game changer...but Shield still exists. And like, The Avengers are still chilling. I mean, post ULTRON Iron Man just hopped back in his corvette and went to go get drunk and hang out. No mention of anything bad coming out of it until we got a preview of Civil War like two weeks ago.

On top of that, we had a film that showed Iron Man giving up being Iron Man and then a movie later he's Iron Man and has a million Iron Man suits....

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No we don't. We know that RDJ is going to be in Infinity War, but at what capacity? What about Cap? Winter Soldier was a game changer and the Russo Bros. have said this one will be too. So...all we know is that Cap and Iron Man survive. That's pretty much it. Everything else is a mystery. We've already seen the movie of BvS from the trailer.

So you're saying or hinting that BW, Hawkeye, Falcon,SW, WM,Black Panther may not survive CW?
That this is the last we see of them?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It shouldn't be though. It's way too early for their version of Avengers Imo.

Not really. there's more than one way to skin a cat, so to speak. also, the League is a bit different in terms of how they come together.

Originally posted by Quincy
Nah he means it's closer. In the sense that it's like, heroes meeting.

Plot structure wise, that's more similar than Civil War, in which heroes who already know each other are forced to fight.

JUSTICE LEAGUE will be their version of The Avengers, if you follow

Exactly.

Originally posted by Quincy
I dunno about that. I mean, they TOLD us that Winter Soldier is a game changer...but Shield still exists.

And like, The Avengers are still chilling. I mean, post ULTRON Iron Man just hopped back in his corvette and went to go get drunk and hang out. No mention of anything bad coming out of it until we got a preview of Civil War like two weeks ago.

On top of that, we had a film that showed Iron Man giving up being Iron Man and then a movie later he's Iron Man and has a million Iron Man suits....

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
So you're saying or hinting that BW, Hawkeye, Falcon,SW, WM,Black Panther may not survive CW?
That this is the last we see of them?

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
So you're saying or hinting that BW, Hawkeye, Falcon,SW, WM,Black Panther may not survive CW?
That this is the last we see of them?

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I'm not saying anything other than the fact that something BIG is going to happen in Civil War that will have lasting impact. Will someone die? Maybe. Will friendships be broken? Almost certainly.

Still its funny that Superman is slowly becoming a bit player in his own movie(s).

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
It was a game changer. Shield and Hydra being one group was pretty scary. Nick Fury is no longer head of Shield; and their infrastructure is all but eradicated. They are essentially weak and a non factor at the moment. United Nations is going to be the one pushing Sokovia Accords.Um, the Avengers are just chilling? Did you watch AoU? Hulk is awol, Thor fled back to Asgard. Cap and Tony really didn't get along at all that entire movie, and the Avengers as we know them are broken up. A new set of Avengers is in place featuring Scarlet Witch, Vision, War Machine and Falcon. I never said Iron Man 3 was a game changer. In fact that movie did the least to push forward an over-arching plot. You should really think before you post...collect your thoughts to make sure you know what you're talking about.

It was a rad movie, definitely. Something being scary does not equate a game changer. Aliens are scary. Red-Faced Nazi's are scary. The structure is changed but it literally still exists. They even put the Avengers in the direction of Lok's staff? How was that different from the first Avengers movie?

Hulk is ALWAYS AWOL. If anything, it went BACK to the status quo.

Wait a minute, THOR is in ASGARD??? GAME CHANGERRRRRRRRR.

The Avengers may have broken up but like...yeah...hi...they are all right there in Civil War? And like, not even necessarily the shown roster at the end of the film?

My point in Iron Man 3's inconsistencies is showing the fact that Marvel movies do not equate giant upending of the formula even when they genuinely state that.

Originally posted by Quincy
It was a rad movie, definitely. Something being scary does not equate a game changer. Aliens are scary. Red-Faced Nazi's are scary. The structure is changed but it literally still exists. They even put the Avengers in the direction of Lok's staff? How was that different from the first Avengers movie?

Hulk is ALWAYS AWOL. If anything, it went BACK to the status quo.

Wait a minute, THOR is in ASGARD??? GAME CHANGERRRRRRRRR.

The Avengers may have broken up but like...yeah...hi...they are all right there in Civil War? And like, not even necessarily the shown roster at the end of the film?

My point in Iron Man 3's inconsistencies is showing the fact that Marvel movies do not equate giant upending of the formula even when they genuinely state that.

1) You really don't have good comprehension. Either that or you just don't read anything. I said, Shield is a non-factor after WS. Nick Fury is out as director and they aren't the big players they were before. IT changed what we knew and thought about SHIELD.

2) No, Hulk was an Avenger and was willing to help the team. Now he's hiding and will not be on the Avengers. He will appear in Ragnarok but that's all we know atm.

3) This point just makes you look stupid. Again, Thor is not on the Avengers atm. He's taking care of business in Asgard and Vision is presumably taking his spot. And that's AoU. I never said that movie was a game changer. I said WS was. Comprehension 101.

4) The Avengers aren't all in CW. Alot of them are. And as I said, something big will happen. Just because you're too dense to comprehend it doesn't make it any less so.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
1) You really don't have good comprehension. Either that or you just don't read anything. I said, Shield is a non-factor after WS. Nick Fury is out as director and they aren't the big players they were before. IT changed what we knew and thought about SHIELD.

2) No, Hulk was an Avenger and was willing to help the team. Now he's hiding and will not be on the Avengers. He will appear in Ragnarok but that's all we know atm.

3) This point just makes you look stupid. Again, Thor is not on the Avengers atm. He's taking care of business in Asgard and Vision is presumably taking his spot. And that's AoU. I never said that movie was a game changer. I said WS was. Comprehension 101.

4) The Avengers aren't all in CW. Alot of them are. And as I said, something big will happen. Just because you're too dense to comprehend it doesn't make it any less so.

I'm very surprised that my lack of enthusiasm for age of ultron upsets you the way that it does.

The way DC/WB is planing to do it , it would be like if Marvel would have released their movies in this order.

Incredible Hulk (Norton)
Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ironman
Avengers:Infinity War part 1
Captain America
Thor
Antman
Avengers:Infinity War part 2

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Also can someone explain or give detail on "The Marvel Formula"?

Originally posted by Quincy
I'm very surprised that my lack of enthusiasm for age of ultron upsets you the way that it does.

Originally posted by Inhuman
The way DC/WB is planing to do it , it would be like if Marvel would have released their movies in this order.

Incredible Hulk (Norton)
Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ironman
Avengers:Infinity War part 1
Captain America
Thor
Antman
Avengers:Infinity War part 2

That does sound pretty messy TBH. However BvS, and SS I guess, should give WB the feed back they need to handle their future movie.

I'd rather not have solo movies of every hero. Not necessary, especially with Batman. We just had a Superman movie, we'll have BVS and WW. Then the JLA. That's fine with me.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
It's not your lack of enthusiasm. It's your attempts to twist what has happened in the movies. Look, just because BvS is jumping the gun doesn't mean you have to get all defensive. Just accept the truth that Civil War's story is going to be leagues better. 😉

Ohhhhh THAT'S what you think is happening here. Your bizarre candor and anger thing going on makes way more sense. I thought you were just weird.

Originally posted by Inhuman
The way DC/WB is planing to do it , it would be like if Marvel would have released their movies in this order.

Incredible Hulk (Norton)
Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ironman
Avengers:Infinity War part 1
Captain America
Thor
Antman
Avengers:Infinity War part 2

This is a false equivalency because WB/DC is making their films in a specific order so the scripts will coincide with that vision. You can't jumble up the MCU films because they were written with a different plan in mind so, of course it wouldn't work if altered.

Also can someone explain or give detail on "The Marvel Formula"?

Basically, it's the idea of having solo films first and then the big team-up.

Originally posted by Inhuman
The way DC/WB is planing to do it , it would be like if Marvel would have released their movies in this order.

Incredible Hulk (Norton)
Avengers
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ironman
Avengers:Infinity War part 1
Captain America
Thor
Antman
Avengers:Infinity War part 2

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Also can someone explain or give detail on "The Marvel Formula"?

By your question I assume you're talking about the Phases? Phase 1, 2 and 3 and so on?