Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Originally posted by Silent Master
It could have easily incorporated some minor elements to suit the other characters while keeping with an overall dark tone. instead they decided to pick a tone that only fit 1 character in the movie. I get it, you like Batman so you're ok with them ignoring how their choices effect the fans of other characters involved.

Which characters you talking about exactly? This movie is about Batman and Superman. Let's put aside that they already went for a more serious tone with MOS, do you think the movie would be better as half light and half dark?

Trust me, if that happened the critic consensus would be that the movie sucks because it's tone is all over the place.

Also my fav DC character is The Flash. But he only has a cameo in this so I certainly don't expect the general tone of the film to change based on him.

The tones of individual characters don't influence the general tone of the movie (which is what most people seem to have an issue with).

You can have a brooding and tortured Batman in a movie that's generally light-hearted or optimistic. You can also have a heroic and inspiring Superman in a movie that's filled with dark and mature themes. The concepts aren't mutual.

will be seeing this in less than 48 hours .. I will say if its shit or something good.

I'm aware that they tried a dark/serious tone for MOS, I'm also aware that one of the biggest criticisms of MOS was it's tone and how people didn't think it worked for a Superman movie.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
The tones of individual characters don't influence the general tone of the movie (which is what most people seem to have an issue with).

You can have a brooding and tortured Batman in a movie that's generally light-hearted or optimistic. You can also have a heroic and inspiring Superman in a movie that's filled with dark and mature themes. The concepts aren't mutual.

Well the tone of this Superman had already been established in MOS as brooding. And again, whatever cameos there are, this movie is mainly about Batman trying to destroy Superman. Dark fits that IMO. (Even if not being kid friendly could bite this movie in the ass box office wise).

Different characters in the same film just need different personalities. Not different tones. Different tones is what TASM2 was panned for. Going from one tone with Spider-Man to a completely different one with Electro to again a totally different one with Rhino. That's when critics start saying "movie didn't work because the tone was all over the place."

I wonder if Snyder is shitting bricks now of the thought of a dream team taking over JLA.

If true, of course.

Fire Snyder.

Dream team?

Quanchi directing, Abhi writing, Robtard producing. Silent Master fight choreography.

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Originally posted by playa1258
Quanchi directing, Abhi writing, Robtard producing. Silent Master fight choreography.

GTFO.

Honestly though, I don't think Snyder is the problem. Giving him too much power? Sure, that's a problem. But I've watched far too many comic movies with sub-par action. imo guys like Snyder are needed, if only for action stuff.

The film would have a serious chance at getting an Oscar or two if Batman punched Clark's genitals off.

Originally posted by -Pr-
GTFO.

Honestly though, I don't think Snyder is the problem.

😘

The guy has pretty much failed at every level on the comic book based stuff. He's a problem.

Originally posted by Zack M
I wonder if Snyder is shitting bricks now of the thought of a dream team taking over JLA.

If true, of course.

Think the only thing that will save Snyder at this point is this film making close to 1.5bill.

1 bill will save the DCEU but it won't save Snyder IMO.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Think the only thing that will save Snyder at this point is this film making close to 1.5bill.

1 bill will save the DCEU but it won't save Snyder IMO.

If this film is crap, then I have to admit you were right about Snyder.

What's this shit about a billion anyway? Not too long ago that was a far fetched dream, now it's the expectation. A 600 million profit is the only way this can be a success? Get that shit out of here.

If this movie is truly shit, then it shouldn't even break even. And if it is shit, I hope it doesn't even cover production costs. Because that's what you deserve when you screw up badly. You don't deserve to make 900 million off a shitty movie and only be considered a failure because you didn't get 100 mill more.

This is some next level greed. A couple years ago Snyder making even 700 million would have guaranteed his stay in this series. Now the only thing fans are hoping for is a billion.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
The tones of individual characters don't influence the general tone of the movie (which is what most people seem to have an issue with).

You can have a brooding and tortured Batman in a movie that's generally light-hearted or optimistic. You can also have a heroic and inspiring Superman in a movie that's filled with dark and mature themes. The concepts aren't mutual.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
What's this shit about a billion anyway? Not too long ago that was a far fetched dream, now it's the expectation. A 600 million profit is the only way this can be a success? Get that shit out of here.

If this movie is truly shit, then it shouldn't even break even. And if it is shit, I hope it doesn't even cover production costs. Because that's what you deserve when you screw up badly. You don't deserve to make 900 million off a shitty movie and only be considered a failure because you didn't get 100 mill more.

This is some next level greed. A couple years ago Snyder making even 700 million would have guaranteed his stay in this series. Now the only thing fans are hoping for is a billion.

Firstly this movie needs to gross an estimated $800million to break even (after taking into account Marketing and Theatre cuts).

Secondly when the last 2 Batman films made $1Billion each, then the first meeting of Batman and Superman should easily make that. Trust me Snyder will go if this movie doesn't gross over a Billion.

Originally posted by Zack M
If this film is crap, then I have to admit you were right about Snyder.

It won't be that bad. People like Schmoes are saying its Meh.

Still think it might be good though. Many fans have enjoyed it. Don't totally trust Critics/Reviewers who gave things like IM3 79%.

My prediction is it will be on par with Age of Ultron, maybe a bit better.

Well a movie doesn't have to be good to make a lot of money. However there's something seriously wrong if a movie staring BvS isn't entertaining: I mean what happened. Also of this movie really is craps then what chance does the Suicide Squad have for being entertaining?