Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Started by Lestov16638 pages

Well that's the thing. They were good reasons. Bruce firsthand experienced and saw the destruction Supes can cause, and Supes believes everybody, including himself, should have fair judgement by the law, and a vigilante like Bats shouldn't trample on civil liberties to decide justice themselves. Like I said, great themes there. Not to mention, you know, the small fact of Luthor threatening to burn his mom alive.

Better than Ultron wanting to destroy humanity because he spent 2 minutes on the internet.

They stopped because Clark said "HE'LL KILL MARTHA". Hearing a woman is about to be killed who has the same name as your mom who was also killed will obviously get you to pause a minute.

Originally posted by Lestov16
In comparison to the choreography of every other live action Batman, it was definitely the best. Maybe not on the level of The Raid, but did it really need to be?

It looked sloppy and stupid. The warehouse scene, that was good. Only action sequence of the movie I really enjoyed from start to finish.

BvS fight was overall underwhelming. Did like the snippet where

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B starts punching S and S slowly powers up again to where the punches no longer affect him, but that was all of 30-45seconds

DD fight scene was a nightmare, especially after DD gets

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nuked and starts throwing out Super Saiyan power waves
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Originally posted by Inhuman
The question should be,...

Since most of the people here understood the movie just fine...

Did he in fact have trouble understanding this movie and find it overly complex?

It's starting to look that way.

Originally posted by Robtard

BvS fight was overall underwhelming. Did like the snippet where
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B starts punching S and S slowly powers up again to where the punches no longer affect him, but that was all of 30-45seconds

I loled at this scene. It was my favorite scene in the movie. That "Oh f********ck" look in his face made it for me

I guess well have to agree to disagree. I loved the climatic battle. The scope of the shockwaves demonstrated the godlike power that these characters represent.

Is that the part that you believe was to complex for us to understand?

Originally posted by Silent Master [QUOTE=15669394]Originally posted by Lestov16
The scope of the shockwaves demonstrated the godlike power that these characters represent.

Is that the part that you believe was to complex for us to understand? [/QUOTE] 😆

Originally posted by Inhuman
Ouch 😬

'Batman v Superman' Sets Record With Worst Friday-Sunday Drop For A Superhero Pic

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2016/03/28/batman-v-superman-sets-record-with-worst-friday-sunday-drop-for-superhero-pics/#5ddedf166d7

Worth noting that a lot of people have Friday off and that Sunday, being Easter, likely was deflated. Though, I’m sure weak WoM likely hurt it as well.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
I loled at this scene. It was my favorite scene in the movie. That "Oh f********ck" look in his face made it for me

Also found the kitchen sink scene to be a little funny too, that idiom "everything but the kitchen sink", think the writer/Synder was having a laugh telling us that Batman's going to need everything at his disposable to take on Superman.

Zynder's still an assbag that needs to be booted from the JL flicks for ruining something that could have been really good if not great. **** that guy.

Originally posted by Inhuman
The question should be,...

Since most of the people here understood the movie just fine...

Did he in fact have trouble understanding this movie and find it overly complex?

If I actually understood the themes, how is it my intelligence in question? Seems people wanted a jokey GotG movie just because its based on kids material and weren't prepared for the maturity this film brought. Thankfully I don't classify films by strict genres and what I think they should be. Film is an artform, and it's redundant to judge art with preconceived expectations.

Originally posted by Lestov16
If I actually understood the themes, how is it my intelligence in question? Seems people wanted a jokey GotG movie just because its based on kids material and weren't prepared for the maturity this film brought. Thankfully I don't classify films by strict genres and what I think they should be. Film is an artform, and it's redundant to judge art with preconceived expectations.

You still haven't explained what parts of the movie were too deep/smart/complex for us to understand.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You still haven't explained what parts of the movie were too deep/smart/complex for us to understand.
He can't and won't. There are no parts that are too complex for us to understand. There are a few moments that NON comic readers will have no fugging clue about (The Darkseid/Parademon reference for instance). But as far as the normal movie presented to us; it was straight-forward; albeit with tons of bad writing and plot holes. Perhaps that's the point. Because we see the flaws and he doesn't, he can't comprehend why we see what we see.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Seems people wanted a jokey GotG movie just because its based on kids material and weren't prepared for the maturity this film brought.

I dont understand how humor in a film is now a bad thing. Can you explain please.
Like I have said before the most dark and mature comics always have one liners in them.
Lord of the rings were great films. they had action, humor , adult themes, etc.
All Quentin Tarantino films have humor and they are 100% adult movies with complex and adult themes.
I could go on and on. Since when is humor in a movie mean that the movie is now a childrens movie?
Pretty dumb when I see people all around the web trying to make it seem humor is bad. Like if a movie has humor they "HHHIIIISSS!!!" at the screen like a Vampire when it gets hit with sunlight.
I guess some people are so mature they have evolved past humor.😬

Originally posted by Lestov16
If I actually understood the themes, how is it my intelligence in question? Seems people wanted a jokey GotG movie just because its based on kids material and weren't prepared for the maturity this film brought. Thankfully I don't classify films by strict genres and what I think they should be. Film is an artform, and it's redundant to judge art with preconceived expectations.
Yeah, because GOTG is shit in comparison to this masterpiece. 👆

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I've decided to hold off to see it until next weekend when I'll have my choice of good seating in the theatre. Theatres here in the Bay were packed on Friday and Saturday and I wound up with other plans for my birthday. I don't think that will be the case next week. My Facebook feed is full of people complaining about the film. The only person I know that liked it was my best friend Paul who saw it with his wife and basically said that the action was good, Batman and Wonder Woman were good, but Lex Luthor was terrible, Doomsday's fight scene looked like Dragonball Z, and Superman looked and acted like a depressed punk b*tch throughout the film.
The drop-off in attendance is real. I saw it in Emeryville yesterday and we arrived an hour before the film started only for their to be no line at all (and this was for IMAX no less). The ticket-seller told us to come back in half an hour and when we did, the line only had about 20 people in it.

We got more or less the best seats in the house, and even after the movie started we still had an empty seat on each side of us. That theater was relatively deserted.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's a good number overall. TDKR didn't make that much more and it's coming off of a movie that made 668 WW.

Coming off TDKR as well given its our first Batman since then. Like I said if this was MOS2 without Batman then a 950 mill tally would be amazing for WB.

Also box office multipliers are important for studios to note. Because if the box office multiplier is bad it indicates bad WOM. With bad WOM Justice League suddenly becomes a big risk, as JL will likely cost more than BvS and might gross less than BvS if BvS has bad WOM.

Anyway we'll see next week if this was just an Easter thing, or if the WOM for this really is bad.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
In fact, it's a horribly written movie. John Schnepp from Collider, a huge Batman/Superman fan said as much.

Exactly my point. I'm not saying audiences are stupid, I'm saying they had preconceived expectations before seeing it, which is not how you are supposed to judge a film, regardless of its source material.

As stated, the Bourne films have jack shit to do with the books they're based on, but nobody cares because they are objectively good movies overall. But with this it's different because Superman and Batman are way more famous than Jason Bourne, so it's harder to make that objective judgement.

And then, with the facetious tone of the MCU films, it makes the serious tone of this film seem obsolete, again based on preconceived expectations of what a comic book movie should be. So essentially what I'm saying is that audiences aren't stupid. They're just judging this film wrong.

So you're dropping the argument that those who didn't like the movie just didn't "understand" it?

John Schnepp says Iron Man 3 is an Amazing film. His opinion doesn't count.

The first 80 minutes almost bored me to death....ermm