Originally posted by Darth Thor
I thought the film made it pretty clear that people's reception to Supes was very mixed. Some hated him, others literally worshipped him.Don't make issues where there are none.
You expecting SS and WW to make more than this?
Suicide squad, maybe. Wonder Woman, no. I was mainly talking about Justice League.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Originally posted by Inhuman
Sad that WB/DC even now are failing to get it 😬Its not about having a lighter tone that would make their movies good.
There is much more to it than that. Its about actually understanding the characters you are making movies about. Its about getting capable people in charge of making these movies.
It has nothing to do with "just" tone.
Everything can be summed up by this:
Originally posted by -Pr-
This is what happens when WB don't let DC have power over its own movies.
DC hired Bruce Timm and he produced Batman and Superman's respective animated series, Justice League, and most of the pre 52 animated movies. DC hired Greg Weissman and Brandon Vietti and they did Young Justice. All were critically acclaimed. Even their games are in a good place.
What did WB do? A mixed bag. Two decent Superman movies followed by two bad ones, a mediocre pseudo reboot from Singer, and a divisive reboot from Snyder. Two good Burton Batman movies followed by two bad Schumacher ones at WB's exact direction. They lucked out on Nolan. They were still afraid of making a Batman movie prior to him. Catwoman, Jonah Hex, and Green Lantern were bad. Watchman was decent. They even managed to bloat and cheapen BvS: DoJ, their most anticipated movie, ever, with their 2 biggest icons, all because they wanted Avengers money without putting in pre-Avengers work.
I don't understand why WB is so apprehensive to letting DC handle this? They clearly can't do it based on all their failures till this day. Don't they see what Marvel is doing and all the success they're having? Disney didn't come along and say, "We'll take over since we know more about movies than you do." No. They said, "We'll let you do what you do since you know these characters better than we do. We'll just finance you." WB doesn't know these characters. They need to let go and let DC have at it already.
It's time we start contacting WB and tell them they are getting in their own way.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
The sad part is this film is going to make bank and Synder will get to keep his job. It should pass half a billion tomorrow.
WB will make some changes. The reviews are costing them money. I'm sure they are smart enough to realise that.
On the other hand WB is part of the problem. Rushing into BvS and now JL. That's WB's idea.
Originally posted by Darth ThorRushing it wasn't the excuse man, they announced this film 3 years ago.
WB will make some changes. The reviews are costing them money. I'm sure they are smart enough to realise that.On the other hand WB is part of the problem. Rushing into BvS and now JL. That's WB's idea.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Did you see the movie?
yes.
Spoiler:
Instead of WW fuqing around with her lasso, superman could have been the distraction while she wielded the spear.
Spoiler:
Also, you see the stupid way DD was created? Lex pouring his blood on Zods face. Then kryptonian ship magic. lol. Why was his blood even needed. If anything Lex's blood would have made DD into a homo-ish awkward jittery monster
Originally posted by juggernaut74No, Inhuman is right. That was one of the dumbest parts of the film.
I was gonna say something but I didn't feel like explaining it.
Spoiler:
WW could have stopped using the lasso, Superman could have tied up/distracted DD and then WW could have used the spear. NEWSFLASH, she wouldn't have got weakened by the Kryptonite! But no, They just had to kill Superman off even though we don't care enough about his character to matter. Well, it doesn't matter anyway because they didn't kill him...
Originally posted by juggernaut74
No way man, Suicide Squad is gonna make bank. Snyder isn't involved in this one.
Perhaps. But SS is so far removed from the JL that it really doesn't matter. But BvS needs to go IMO. I feel there were some really cool ideas for where to go with JL (probably my favorite was that scene they deleted for some god damned reason), but there was far more stupid shit and what they've done to the characters is just moronic. I also wouldn't mind if they dropped Cavill who has been incredibly wooden in both films, though in fairness to him that may be due more to the script and direction rather than any lack of acting ability on his part.
Spoiler:That's a major problem. One which I can't really see them recovering from.
When Superman died I felt nothing.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
No, Inhuman is right. That was one of the dumbest parts of the film.Spoiler:
WW could have stopped using the lasso, Superman could have tied up/distracted DD and then WW could have used the spear. NEWSFLASH, she wouldn't have got weakened by the Kryptonite! But no, They just had to kill Superman off even though we don't care enough about his character to matter. Well, it doesn't matter anyway because they didn't kill him...
Would it have made any real difference?
Spoiler:Regardless, it's such a minor problem in a film full of far bigger ones IMO.
I'd assume WW would have died as well.
Originally posted by ares834Of course, I listed a ton of problems but kept forgetting to even bring that one up..too many problems to list all of them. But who knows, WW probably
Would it have made any real difference?Spoiler:Regardless, it's such a minor problem in a film full of far bigger ones IMO.
I'd assume WW would have died as well.
Spoiler:. But yah, it doesn't really matter at the end of the day.
wouldn't have died, Superman was really weakened by the time he got to DD because he was holding the damn thing while flying....you could see him straining even before he got there...it was beyond dumb...