Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

The Marvel parallel I see with this one is Hulk in 2003, which opened very big (though not as big as future Marvel/DC films would) but dropped 70% by it's second weekend as poor word of mouth spread. It got criticized for being way too serious and dark for it's subject matter - though the film was essentially a monster movie, the ratio of darkness to fun was off. One reviewer for People magazine, I remember vividly her calling out for Michael Bay as the kind of director this film needed (she felt ashamed to say it), instead of future Oscar winner Ang Lee. The difference was we thought the film would be awesome under Ang Lee( and it did have a few hardcore critical supporters), but then we saw it and concluded he took it in a direction we didn't like. While many of us were always wary of Zack Snyder's suitability for Superman ahead of time.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
can't we all just settle down, be civil, and agree that this movie is a piece of dogshit that should never have been made?

Admit it, Golgo.

YouTube video

Renner and Evans, perfect reaction 😂 😂 😂

Originally posted by MF DELPH
It was supposed to be made, just not as it was. They should have saved Doomsday for later and done a straight up Man of Steel 2 with Metallo as the villain, and solo Batman and Wonder Woman movies with tie ins, and then had a Batman v Superman film due to their philosophical issues after Superman has established himself as the iconic hero loved by humanity in MOS2. Doomsday should have been saved for a full JLA movie.

That Lex Luthor, however, should never have happened.

Can you build a time-machine, go back a few years and tell WB this? Thanks.

^ We were all shouting and screaming at WB for the last few years not to rush into JL, build it up first. But WB never listened. They were determined to cash in ASAP, and be "Different" to Marvel.

WB is so worried about being perceived as copying Marvel's formula they're going to ruin a shared universe experience that should be f*cking amazing. I want some great Green Lantern films, dammit. Realistically there's only so many ways to launch a bunch of individual properties that will tie in together in team up films. Who gives a damn if Marvel is also or already doing it? Comics are comics. I'm not going to poo poo a slew of X-O Manowar/Harbinger/Archer & Armstrong/Eternal Warrior solo films leading into a live action Unity flick simply because Marvel did it first. I'm a fan of the medium as a whole. Just do it and have some quality control.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
WB is so worried about being perceived as copying Marvel's formula they're going to ruin a shared universe experience that should be f*cking amazing. I want some great Green Lantern films, dammit. Realistically there's only so many ways to launch a bunch of individual properties that will tie in together in team up films. Who gives a damn if Marvel is also or already doing it? Comics are comics. I'm not going to poo poo a slew of X-O Manowar/Harbinger/Archer & Armstrong/Eternal Warrior solo films leading into a live action Unity flick simply because Marvel did it first. I'm a fan of the medium as a whole. Just do it and have some quality control.

Not a 100% sure it's a "we don't want to be seen as copying", DC and Marvel copy from each other, it's a known thing that's been going on for decades. Gladiator, Deadpool, Thanos, all ideas ripped from DC. Honestly think there's just shortsighted morons calling the shots at WB.

Unless WB has actually said that?

Originally posted by Robtard

Unless WB has actually said that?

It's the impression they're giving. I mean they're not exactly rushing when there's been 3 years between MOS and BvS. Could have easily fit in a Batman solo, MOS sequel, and WW film in that time instead of BvS.

But they chose to take 3 years to do just BvS, then give us JL the next year 😬

Originally posted by Robtard
Not a 100% sure it's a "we don't want to be seen as copying", DC and Marvel copy from each other, it's a known thing that's been going on for decades. Gladiator, Deadpool, Thanos, all ideas ripped from DC. Honestly think there's just shortsighted morons calling the shots at WB.

Unless WB has actually said that?

DC is just making up for lost time, because unlike Marvel, they have been owned by one company - Warner Bros. - for several decades and could have done the shared cinematic universe way earlier. But they chose not to when they had opportunity, retreating to safe ground.

Still no excuse to rush things, though.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not a 100% sure it's a "we don't want to be seen as copying", DC and Marvel copy from each other, it's a known thing that's been going on for decades. Gladiator, Deadpool, Thanos, all ideas ripped from DC. Honestly think there's just shortsighted morons calling the shots at WB.

Unless WB has actually said that?

Not copying the characters, but copying the structure of the shared character/media universe. For example, having live action tv series tie into the same universe as the films is something Marvel strategically chose to do. WB purposefully has cut Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow off from the DCEU to not emulate that. They've even gone so far as to dismiss the use of post credits scenes simply because Marvel already does it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
YouTube video

Renner and Evans, perfect reaction 😂 😂 😂

oh this is priceless and funny

29% now.

I'm actually surprised. Thought it'd stay at 28 😂

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Not copying the characters, but copying the structure of the shared character/media universe. For example, having live action tv series tie into the same universe as the films is something Marvel strategically chose to do. WB purposefully has cut Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow off from the DCEU to not emulate that. They've even gone so far as to dismiss the use of post credits scenes simply because Marvel already does it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
29% now.

I'm actually surprised. Thought it'd stay at 28 😂

Day's not over yet

Originally posted by Robtard
Day's not over yet

Golgo is trying as hard as he can.

Maybe his DC masters will spare his family.

Maybe.

Well it's finally hit $700mill:

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/batman-v-superman-box-office-milestone-1201746550/

Just another 100mill to go before it can say it out grossed Deadpool & GOTG and it can claim it's starting to make profit LOL

These studios need to learn from Deadpool and realise you don't have to spend so much damn money to be loved by fans.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Not copying the characters, but copying the structure of the shared character/media universe. For example, having live action tv series tie into the same universe as the films is something Marvel strategically chose to do. WB purposefully has cut Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow off from the DCEU to not emulate that. They've even gone so far as to dismiss the use of post credits scenes simply because Marvel already does it.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Yeah, it's ridiculous tbh.

Wow, only another 100m before a movie featuring the 3 biggest icons in comics will be able to say it out grossed 2 movies featuring C and D list characters.

DC must be so proud of themselves.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wow, only another 100m before a movie featuring the 3 biggest icons in comics will be able to say it out grossed 2 movies featuring C and D list characters.

DC must be so proud of themselves.

LOL Spider-Man and Cap might have to say something about that.