Rank'em!!!!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
"Mythbusted", please.

Strange has routinely shown immense power and versatility in a myriad of situations to justify my ranking of him.

He has auto-shields for defense against speedblitz. He has the ability to negate almost every attack. His level of power has been trans often enough to characterize him at that level.

If you voted him down from that tier I demand a recount!

It's absolutely true. Strange is probably the character whose actual feats and showings get twisted the absolute most out of any character on KMC, and for the most part, it's not even out of malicious intent or just hatred of other characters or to serve some agenda. It's honest to goodness "innocent" ignorance like 90% of the time. But because his feats and showings have been misrepresented for so long, people legitimately think Strange is a Trans tier - if not higher - being who is significantly beyond the likes of Thor and Surfer which is simply not true at all. Heck, I used to think the same damn thing about Classic Strange until I started to read the comics and do some independent research. He's high herald with high end feats that push him beyond that (just like Thor and Surfer).

He's shown enough consistently to be on the same level as Thor and Surfer. Putting him beyond them is stupid seeing as they both have stupid ass feats, often without plot device or prep time or specific context.

That's not true. You'd literally have to ignore all his low, middle, and even upper tiered feats barring the most extreme ones to get to that conclusion of him "consistently" being trans tiered.

I motioned the movement and it got enough traction by plenty of regular posters (of various dispositions and preferences to feats and characters) to agree to demoting him. Tbh, I think it was the most popular vote in terms of how many people agreed with it.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Galactus and Adam Warlock with the I.G. are pure feats.

Taking Dormmamu out of the equation is a bit convenient.

Galactus has been taken to task briefly by other high heralds.

Warlock with the IG isn't even a feat for Strange considering Warlock while holding back was kicking his phucking ass. That's one of the feats that's been warped the hell out of to push Strange. Warlock attacked him with each gem seperately and Strange was outclassed through and through.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thor got knocked out by a masthead and outwrestled by a security guard. There are low showings for all characters.

Those are outright PIS, not low showings.

When has the Odinson taken down abstracts and Trans level characters "Without" plot devices.

Every big moment I remember has him lasting longer than he should but nothing that puts him above Strange.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
When has the Odinson taken down abstracts and Trans level characters "Without" plot devices.

Every big moment I remember has him lasting longer than he should but nothing that puts him above Strange.

Through out his career. One of his recurring foes is a galaxy buster normally on par with Odin with the ability to go beyond him and Thor habitually puts a hurting on him more so than he's no sold.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's absolutely true. Strange is probably the character whose actual feats and showings get twisted the absolute most out of any character on KMC, and for the most part, it's not even out of malicious intent or just hatred of other characters or to serve some agenda. It's honest to goodness "innocent" ignorance like 90% of the time. But because his feats and showings have been misrepresented for so long, people legitimately think Strange is a Trans tier - if not higher - being who is significantly beyond the likes of Thor and Surfer which is simply not true at all. Heck, I used to think the same damn thing about Classic Strange until I started to read the comics and do some independent research. He's high herald with high end feats that push him beyond that (just like Thor and Surfer).

He's shown enough consistently to be on the same level as Thor and Surfer. Putting him beyond them is stupid seeing as they both have stupid ass feats, often without plot device or prep time or specific context.

That's not true. You'd literally have to ignore all his low, middle, and even upper tiered feats barring the most extreme ones to get to that conclusion of him "consistently" being trans tiered.

I motioned the movement and it got enough traction by plenty of regular posters (of various dispositions and preferences to feats and characters) to agree to demoting him. Tbh, I think it was the most popular vote in terms of how many people agreed with it.

So basically YOU are responsible for this slander against Dr. Strange.

😠

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So basically YOU are responsible for this slander against Dr. Strange.

😠

Truth be told, it wasn't until Bran actually posted full scenes from comics and provided issue numbers that I was motivated to look into the good doctor myself.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Galactus and Adam Warlock with the I.G. are pure feats.

Taking Dormmamu out of the equation is a bit convenient.

Warlock was only using one gem at a time, and Strange was using every artifact he had.

I'm not taking him out, I'm saying he's inconsistent as all hell. He varies from suiciding himself and Eternity to getting very damaged by Cyclops.

Again, what herald level characters has Strange beaten? I'll give you Hulk. Your turn.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thor got knocked out by a masthead and outwrestled by a security guard. There are low showings for all characters.

Plantman knocking him out?

I got this order...

1. Silver Surfer
2. Thor
3. Dr.Strange

Strange has high feats just like Thor and Surfer's. As numerous? Maybe, maybe not.

But Strange also has the absolute lowest feats you can imagine, and they far outnumber Thor/Surfer low feats. Strange's shields have failed against beings lower than Surfer and Thor numerous times, and there's a possibility you can count the times they've succeeded against beings higher than a Thor on your hands (hand). And unlike Thor and Surfer, Strange lacks the actual feats against people on a Thor/Surfer level.

But he's clearly a tier higher. I don't much get that.

Originally posted by Supermex
I got this order...

1. Silver Surfer
2. Thor
3. Dr.Strange

Pretty much. 👆

Strange is absolutely not above people like Thor/Surfer/Superman. His low showings are outright laughable and his high showings have often context to them or are just distorted like the one in his respect thread where words were literally edited out of the scan.

http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/DrStrangeSorcerersupre37-20.jpg

😐

So when beings like Eternity and The Watcher describe Strange's power that should be dismissed?

The Shuma Gorath fights are great showings overall and Gorath is giveing Thor hell if they fight.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Strange has high feats just like Thor and Surfer's. As numerous? Maybe, maybe not.

But Strange also has the absolute lowest feats you can imagine, and they far outnumber Thor/Surfer low feats. Strange's shields have failed against beings lower than Surfer and Thor numerous times, and there's a possibility you can count the times they've succeeded against beings higher than a Thor on your hands (hand). And unlike Thor and Surfer, Strange lacks the actual feats against people on a Thor/Surfer level.

But he's clearly a tier higher. I don't much get that.

Strange has feats against people above Thor and Surfer but it depends on accepting the characterization of those characters. Routinely, there are some, ancient, mystical, immensely powerful beings on par with (Insert recognizeable high herald/trans character name) Strange beats them and they never appear again.

When this takes place for scores of issues at some point he should be given credit for it.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
So when beings like Eternity and The Watcher describe Strange's power that should be dismissed?

The Shuma Gorath fights are great showings overall and Gorath is giveing Thor hell if they fight.

And there's a shit ton of context to them. Like Strange using infinite power for one...

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Strange has feats against people above Thor and Surfer but it depends on accepting the characterization of those characters. Routinely, there are some, ancient, mystical, immensely powerful beings on par with (Insert recognizeable high herald/trans character name) Strange beats them and they never appear again.

When this takes place for scores of issues at some point he should be given credit for it.

And that is in no way different than any other character here.

Better question, how does this put him at a tier above Thor/Surfer?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What did they say?

And there's a shit ton of context to them. Like Strange using infinite power for one...

Who are these characters. What have they done?

And that is in no way different than any other character here.

Better question, how does this put him at a tier above Thor/Surfer?

Strange is probably the most powerful psionic in the Marvel universe. Surfer and Thor are susceptible to mind control.

His versatility exceeds that of Mjolnir and is at least on par with the power cosmic. The magic absorption feats should diminish Mjolnir greatly.

Strange has greater knowledge of the universe than Thor and Surfer and can exploit that to has advantage over them.

You, false savior of the House of El.

Please provide your list.

Strange isn't the most powerful psionic in MU. That's pure BS. Moondragon fought him to a double KO in psychic fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Strange isn't the most powerful psionic in MU. That's pure BS. Moondragon fought him to a double KO in psychic fight.

He matched her with the Mind Gem.

How is that pure BS?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Strange is probably the most powerful psionic in the Marvel universe. Surfer and Thor are susceptible to mind control.

His versatility exceeds that of Mjolnir and is at least on par with the power cosmic. The magic absorption feats should diminish Mjolnir greatly.

Strange has greater knowledge of the universe than Thor and Surfer and can exploit that to has advantage over them.

But... no he isn't. The guy was mental blocked from using his powers by Xemnu.
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No it doesn't. Mjolnir and Surfer can pretty much do anything.
And Mjolnir can absorb magic too, so... that.
And he is not absorbing the magic from Mjolnir, that's insane.

Good for him. Thor and Surfer have greater knowledge of not having human durability and can exploit that over him.