Originally posted by ares834
I actually like TIH. I thought it was better than CA:TFA, any of the Thors, and the IM sequels.
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Except for Thor 1 I agree with you. But Thor 1 is still one of my favourite Marvel movies.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
When I talk about you being in the minority, I was taking into account not only score, but box office. IIRC, TIH made very little money, definitely the least grossing (total profit) movie that Marvel Studios has ever made.
Box office usually has little/no relation to which movie people preferred.
Marvel was not the massive brand it is today when TIH came out. If TIH was made today it would crush it at the box office IMO. Especially so given his popularity in the Avengers.
Whilst TIH (at that time) had to fight the stink of Ang Lee's Hulk for people to even give it a chance.
Originally posted by krisblaze
I'm having a hard time digesting Ultron's plan.Was it literally to just
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lift that town into space and then slam it down onto earth?Because that's pretty shit.
Actually, it's a pretty good plan.
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Dropping a city-sized meteor is quick enough that the world wouldn't be able to marshal forces against it, and once accomplished the damage is done. Instead of having to chase humanity down around the world Skynet-style and risk them fighting back and maybe even winning, he sets their destruction in motion with a single irrevocable action and waits. Using an occupied city is tactically sound because even if the Avengers find a way to destroy the city they will have moral qualms, and if they ignore those qualms they will lose the trust of the world even as they save it.Just because its simple doesn't make it shit. It was a colossal threat beyond anything seen previously and really damn hard to stop. Also it was only because of Jarvis that he didn't immediately nuke humanity into the stone age.
Just watched it today, here's my two cents.
Have to say I enjoyed it less than GOTG or Cap 2, still a very entertaining film. Mostly due to the mutual trolling within the team and sweet action scenes. Plot however.. Less so. The beginning is all over the place, it gets better as it goes on but.. there's no build up for Ultron whatsoever. No character development, they sort of just skip the whole part where he is built to help but because of AI grows to resent humanity etc, he just comes out of the blue (literally - Destroyed Jarvis who looked like a weird blue sphere for some reason) and is an evil mastermind with clear and established plans right off the bat and it surprises no one like he's a recurring villain. I did enjoy the fact that he is not some emotionless evil robot but a smart jackass with a sense of humor. Too bad
Spoiler:Another thing - there's way too many characters but it's handled pretty well. At the end of the day I think the movie will be well received and get good reviews like X-men DOFP did, and just like with DOFP I think it will be a bit overestimated. But humor and action make up for most sins. This is an action movie after all.
Pietro died (assuming this one actually stays dead), but i guess with his powers he's too much of a plot device character to keep around, that's why they got rid of him in the DOFP when he was needed the most. But I'm guessing they could use his death as an excuse for Wanda to snap in Cap 3 and blow something up, leading to the registration act. Just a guess.
Originally posted by SamZED
Just watched it today, here's my two cents.Have to say I enjoyed it less than GOTG or Cap 2, still a very entertaining film. Mostly due to the mutual trolling within the team and sweet action scenes. Plot however.. Less so. The beginning is all over the place, it gets better as it goes on but.. there's no build up for Ultron whatsoever. No character development, they sort of just skip the whole part where he is built to help but because of AI grows to resent humanity etc, he just comes out of the blue (literally - Destroyed Jarvis who looked like a weird blue sphere for some reason) and is an evil mastermind with clear and established plans right off the bat and it surprises no one like he's a recurring villain. I did enjoy the fact that he is not some emotionless evil robot but a smart jackass with a sense of humor. Too bad
Spoiler:Another thing - there's way too many characters but it's handled pretty well. At the end of the day I think the movie will be well received and get good reviews like X-men DOFP did, and just like with DOFP I think it will be a bit overestimated. But humor and action make up for most sins. This is an action movie after all.
Pietro died (assuming this one actually stays dead), but i guess with his powers he's too much of a plot device character to keep around, that's why they got rid of him in the DOFP when he was needed the most. But I'm guessing they could use his death as an excuse for Wanda to snap in Cap 3 and blow something up, leading to the registration act. Just a guess.
I'll put my non-spoilers views in spoilers, since it's better to discuss these things when everyone's seen it:
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Yeah my thoughts are pretty much the same as yours on the film. Except I loves DOFP! Although I'll admit I was expecting even better from DOFP because I absolutely loved FC and my excitement/hype for DOFP was just insane. Like it was for this film.Problem is with these sequels to such great films, is that people forget sequels rarely match/surpass the Original, and are expectations become way too high.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERI guess I'm just biased when it comes to time travel movies, especially the ones that involve changing the established continuity (my Brand New Day wounds are still healing).
I'll put my non-spoilers views in spoilers, since it's better to discuss these things when everyone's seen it:Spoiler:
Yeah my thoughts are pretty much the same as yours on the film. Except I loves DOFP! Although I'll admit I was expecting even better from DOFP because I absolutely loved FC and my excitement/hype for DOFP was just insane. Like it was for this film.Problem is with these sequels to such great films, is that people forget sequels rarely match/surpass the Original, and are expectations become way too high.
True, now that I think of it Cap 2 was probably the only case in MCU where a sequel surpassed the original.