Avengers 2: Age of Ultron

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Good riddance to the most overrated director since Shamhammer. Yes he made Marvel's largest movie but he also got every single advantage any director could ever ask for. (bigger budget, all the players, the "firsts", more marketing, the fact his movies are the tie ins)

The fact he refers to Anita as a "hero" pretty much makes me lose that last bit of respect for him. She is a con-person who lies to get idiots to fund her and uses threats to pretend she's something more than a crybaby complaining about things she doesn't understand. "Lie with dogs, Joss"

Did you like AOU?

I thought it had some issues but I enjoyed it, the largest issue by far was just adding stuff we never saw or was even hinted at.

Tony turning directly into Redford
Hulk and Widow stuff
Renner and Widow not being a thing despite OBVIOUS hints to the contrary
Cap who was willing to die for Bucky, abandoning Bucky because the Avengers needed him to fight an old German with no powers...
Falcon not immediately becoming an avenger
Jarvis being defeated by Ultron, only to immediately become stronger because...?
Jarvis becoming an AI because plot?
Whatever was Thor Swim time
The general depiction of Ultron was campy.
The Avengers seemingly left Klaw to die
Joss pretending the Coulson reveal is to "weird" for the movies but the far newer Fury reveal was cool...
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Why did fury fake his death? I watch AoS every week and outside of the very selfish reason of protecting himself, we never got a reason.
I guess f*ck iron patriot lol
Cap's greatest fear was not seeing the future??? What? Kinda self centered
Bruce becoming a leader in molecular biology at some point?

And those are just issues off the top of my head.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I thought it had some issues but I enjoyed it, the largest issue by far was just adding stuff we never saw or was even hinted at.

Jarvis being defeated by Ultron, only to immediately become stronger because...?
Jarvis becoming an AI because plot?

Jarvis didnt become stronger. All Jarvis was doing is not letting Ultron get to the nukes by changing the codes. That is not becoming stronger than Ultron.
Jarvis didnt become an "ai" until he became Vision. Before that he was still just Tony's assistant program.. Also when he became "Vision" he stopped being "Jarvis". There was no more Jarvis.
Him becoming "Vision" was a combination of a few things. It just didnt happen just "because".

1. Part of Ultrons mind being loaded into Visions tech/organic body.
2. Jarvis program also being loaded into that same Vision body.
3. The Mind Gem ultimately helping give "life" to this lifeless body with ultrons & Jarvis's mind and program already loaded into it.
4. Thors lightning providing a power source like "Frankenstein"

Mix all that together and thats how Vision came to be.

Whatever was Thor Swim time

That swim was to set up Ragnarok. It was also there along with his dream sequence that SW triggered so he had a reason to leave earth and return to Asgard to investigate. Thus setting up Ragnarok.

The Avengers seemingly left Klaw to die

Again this is setting up Black Panther, Wakanda, Klaw enhanced tech arm, etc.
And he wasnt left to die. He escaped after he ordered his men to shoot and kill everyone.

Why did fury fake his death? I watch AoS every week and outside of the very selfish reason of protecting himself, we never got a reason.

Fury faked his death for the sake of the "Winter Soldier" plot.

Might be a good idea to pay attention when watching movies folks.

Originally posted by SquallX
MU just lost a big player.

Whedon is a great writer and director, hell i grew up on Whedon's wb39 Buffy's.

I saw that you posted you saw Buffy on WB 39 (now CW 39), then I saw your location. Welcome fellow South Floridian.

Whedon is overrated. Marvels success is already firmly in place. They are starting phase three whereas dc hasn't even released their second shared film.

😂

Dunno I felt that the humor that they were trying to inject at times felt way too forced as a throwback to single panel interjections. It works well in panel based comic mediums but throwing it into a movie just kills the tension. I mean big climactic finish, drama ratcheted up and everything in serious mode and it feels like spiderman throwing in a single panel 4th wall tension breaker... Left me feeling kind of let down by that because Joss is a pretty good director IMO and he should know what works in one medium does not translate into another. It felt like he decided to take a page out of Uwe Boll's playbook of fail in translating mediums.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whedon is overrated. Marvels success is already firmly in place. They are starting phase three whereas dc hasn't even released their second shared film.

😂

Gtfo

Originally posted by Uriel005
It felt like he decided to take a page out of Uwe Boll's playbook of fail in translating mediums.

1) First off the humor to me was just right, it felt alot like Avengers 1 in terms of humor.

2) Did you REALLY just compare Joss Whedon to Uwe Boll? I want whatever it is you're smoking. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Firefly218
Gtfo

Originally posted by Inhuman

Jarvis didnt become stronger. All Jarvis was doing is not letting Ultron get to the nukes by changing the codes. That is not becoming stronger than Ultron.
Jarvis didnt become an "ai" until he became Vision. Before that he was still just Tony's assistant program.. Also when he became "Vision" he stopped being "Jarvis". There was no more Jarvis.
Him becoming "Vision" was a combination of a few things. It just didnt happen just "because".

1. Part of Ultrons mind being loaded into Visions tech/organic body.
2. Jarvis program also being loaded into that same Vision body.
3. The Mind Gem ultimately helping give "life" to this lifeless body with ultrons & Jarvis's mind and program already loaded into it.
4. Thors lightning providing a power source like "Frankenstein"

Mix all that together and thats how Vision came to be.

That swim was to set up Ragnarok. It was also there along with his dream sequence that SW triggered so he had a reason to leave earth and return to Asgard to investigate. Thus setting up Ragnarok.

Again this is setting up Black Panther, Wakanda, Klaw enhanced tech arm, etc.
And he wasnt left to die. He escaped after he ordered his men to shoot and kill everyone.

Fury faked his death for the sake of the "Winter Soldier" plot. [/B]

Sure, but wtf was it? If anything in the movie could have been cut, that was a big one.

He had most of his arm amputated and he was in the middle of nowhere. How did he survive that, idk if he escaped shield instantly afterwards.

He kept it up after the movie for no reason other than keeping Sam Jackson off the Tv show.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am correct. I am glad he isn't directing infinity war. I don't like how he handles villains.

You don't know what the **** you're talking about. Loki was written brilliantly in avengers 1, the bounty hunter in Serenity is one of the most underrated villains in cinematic history, Jubil in Firefly was an incredibly weird/creepy/awesome villain, Buffy Angel villains were really good and Capt. Hammer was a brilliant trope reversal villain in Dr Horrible.

Originally posted by Firefly218
You don't know what the **** you're talking about. Loki was written brilliantly in avengers 1, the bounty hunter in Serenity is one of the most underrated villains in cinematic history, Jubil in Firefly was an incredibly weird/creepy/awesome villain, Buffy Angel villains were really good and Capt. Hammer was a brilliant trope reversal villain in Dr Horrible.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Good riddance to the most overrated director since Shamhammer. Yes he made Marvel's largest movie but he also got every single advantage any director could ever ask for. (bigger budget, all the players, the "firsts", more marketing, the fact his movies are the tie ins)

how are so certain he is gone???? what if he joins wb?

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Jarvis made that decision? That's an AI choice unless Tony programmed Jarvis to keep changing the Nuke codes for no reason 😂

If I remember correctly. Banner asked tony why Jarvis was changing the codes. Something like "Why would he do that "
Tony responds with , "Because that's his job"
Jarvis was in charge of the world protection program tony was trying to implement. That was probably one of the tasks and protocols jarvis was programmed to do by tony.

Sure, but wtf was it? If anything in the movie could have been cut, that was a big one.

I didnt mind the cave scene. It showed Thor was really concerned about what he saw in the SW activated dream sequence.

He had most of his arm amputated and he was in the middle of nowhere. How did he survive that, idk if he escaped shield instantly afterwards.

What do you mean in the middle of nowhere? The "ship graveyard" was his secret base. He probably knew the "ins" and "outs" of that place.
They didnt show him getting away but it was implied. Dont know why this is hard to understand.

He kept it up after the movie for no reason other than keeping Sam Jackson off the Tv show.

well , he is the ultimate spy, so he has his reasons.
Dont question sam jackson 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112
Loki was never a real threat though. His characterization has been spot on since his inception. Buffy always sucked. I am not saying he's bad at all I am saying he is overrated and I'm glad he won't get his hands on Thanos in the two parter infinity war.

Loki wasn't written as a threat, He was written as the catalyst to the formation of The Avengers. The movie wasn't about overcoming Loki, it was about whether or not The Avengers could function as a team. Loki's characterization and dialogue was spot on and executed brilliantly.

Some of the Buffy villains like Spike were pretty awesome.

Whedon is certainly not overrated, nobody even knew him before Avengers

Originally posted by Firefly218
Loki wasn't written as a threat, He was written as the catalyst to the formation of The Avengers. The movie wasn't about overcoming Loki, it was about whether or not The Avengers could function as a team. Loki's characterization and dialogue was spot on and executed brilliantly.

Some of the Buffy villains like Spike were pretty awesome.

Whedon is certainly not overrated, nobody even knew him before Avengers

I am glad he's out. He isn't touching Thanos for the culmination of phase three. Whedon isn't great IMO and I'm glad he is not directing infinity war.

Funny how Quanchi changes his tune about somebody once they leave Marvel. Watch him talk about how terrible Whedon is if he joins DC.

Originally posted by Inhuman

If I remember correctly. Banner asked tony why Jarvis was changing the codes. Something like "Why would he do that "
Tony responds with , "Because that's his job"
Jarvis was in charge of the world protection program tony was trying to implement. That was probably one of the tasks and protocols jarvis was programmed to do by tony.

I didnt mind the cave scene. It showed Thor was really concerned about what he saw in the SW activated dream sequence.

What do you mean in the middle of nowhere? The "ship graveyard" was his secret base. He probably knew the "ins" and "outs" of that place.
They didnt show him getting away but it was implied. Dont know why this is hard to understand.

well , he is the ultimate spy, so he has his reasons.
Dont question sam jackson 😬 [/B]

You are in the minority.

Hard to understand that something that you are using happened? Lol. Klaw should have died unless he had an underground bullet train to a hospital.

Which is? It didn't matter. You could have skipped Cap 2 and missed nothing, which is a shame.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
[B]So Jarvis was out pacing Ultron while doing every other thing he does? Tony didn't think Jarvis was anything compared to Ultron at the start of the movie.

Jarvis was only changing the codes so Ultron wouldn't launch the nukes.
Im sure eventually Ultron would prevail. It was only a matter of time. Jarvis was basically staling Ultron as much as he could.
That is all Jarvis was doing. He wasnt controlling the world police thing anymore.

You are in the minority.

cool

Hard to understand that something that you are using happened? Lol. Klaw should have died unless he had an underground bullet train to a hospital.

Its a comic book movie.
In the same movie we have a big chunk of hawkeye's torso being reconstructed in minutes by a laser.
We also have super powered beings and impossible stuff happening all around and "this" is what is unbelievable to you ? 😂

Which is? It didn't matter. You could have skipped Cap 2 and missed nothing, which is a shame.

Another thing you missed at the end of AOU you pretty much see that fury was secretly trying to bring back Shield from the dead.
He sort of accomplishes it as well.

Did you even watch the movie? Or just read some reviews that some edgelord was pointing out insignificant flaws?