Originally posted by Zack Fair
Well that was fast.I am going to disagree and proceed to flip you off just because.
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Originally posted by "Id"
Nope.The comic was very clear, and specifies Kyle did not seek the energies of the Central Battery left by Parallax in the Sun until [b]after
Kyle merged with Oblivion. [/B]
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor>GLs.uhuh
circle of fire. He was getting subconsciously amped ever since then. [/B]
Oblivion merged with Kyle [b]in
In any case. My point is we are given a clear point of reference, in regards to a time frame of when "Kyle" was being amped. And it wasn't the most part of his carrier as you put it.
Circle of Fire #2 October 2000.
-Feats taking place within this time frame should be considered as a period of empowerment-
Green Lantern v3 #150 July 2002
Originally posted by abhilegend
The problem with Kyle's feats is that for the most part, he was amped by Ion. If you take them out he doesn't have so many feats. Despite what you've been told, hal's feats pre-crisis are not valid for him post-crisis. Mjolnir isn't above ring in power by much but it trumps the ring in versatility even if we combine the feats from all the GLs. Alan doesn't count as a GL and you know it.
His power is applied the same way. I'm not saying Hal or Kyle could replicate his top-end feats, but any versatility feat that isn't planet-busting or more should be replicable by any normal GL ring.
Kyle and Hal still have plenty of good feats. Even minus PC stuff, the tally would be close if we consider every GL and what the ring is ultimately capable of.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor>GLs.
You're conflating the matchup with the potential. I've never said anything except "Thor wins" against any non-amped GL (Alan excluded). But this isn't Thor vs. GL.
Zach posed a good question...how is it less versatile than Mjolnir when it is limited only by the imagination? Mjolnir's feats, however varied, are finite. The ring's diversity is nigh-infinite.
On average, Mjolnir. Based on total potential, the ring.
Originally posted by "Id"
Not since Circle of Fire, because that would allude that he was empowered in that entire story, which he wasn't.In any case. My point is we are given a clear point of reference, in regards to a time frame of when "Kyle" was being amped. And it wasn't the most part of his carrier as you put it.
Circle of Fire #2 October 2000.
-Feats taking place within this time frame should be considered as a period of empowerment-
Green Lantern v3 #150 July 2002
He upgraded his ring after he gave up the Ion powers though.
Originally posted by Digi
His power is applied the same way. I'm not saying Hal or Kyle could replicate his top-end feats, but any versatility feat that isn't planet-busting or more should be replicable by any normal GL ring.Kyle and Hal still have plenty of good feats. Even minus PC stuff, the tally would be close if we consider every GL and what the ring is ultimately capable of.
You're conflating the matchup with the potential. I've never said anything except "Thor wins" against any non-amped GL (Alan excluded). But this isn't Thor vs. GL.
Zach posed a good question...how is it less versatile than Mjolnir when it is limited only by the imagination? Mjolnir's feats, however varied, are finite. The ring's diversity is nigh-infinite.
On average, Mjolnir. Based on total potential, the ring.
GL ring's potential has never been nigh-infinite. Its just in title only. We've seen it fail many times even though there has been enough willpower to complete a task, most famously in John Stewart's case but there has been cases like that before.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Versatility isn't about power. I've never seen GLs do shit like remove people's life force or gather magnetic force of a whole planet.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Hal has done that and more.Created life.
Wiped out the knowledge of events from an entire planet.
Psionic powers on par with with high level psionics.
Originally posted by "Id"
GL's have done other things, that I have never seen the Mjolnir replicate. Tapping into the Speed Force, absorbing a black hole, mold the Imaginable World. You cant really say a GL Ring aren't as versatile as the Mjolnir. The fact that can it recreate complex machinery trumps it.