Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually Kyle was amped since he was given the ring, he wasn't aware of it.So, none of his feats before he gave up Ion power count as his own.
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Originally posted by Newjak
Depends on what you mean by more powerful. There are a ton of different ways to do break this argument down where each one comes out a little ahead of each other. Some it will just come down to personal taste. Personally I would rather have the hammer.As for my decision.
Raw Power output:
I'm sorry I'm taking the hammer over the ring. If there is one thing Thor can do it's unleash powerful attacks.Versatility:
Well if you take all of the GL feats together than yes it nudges out Mjolnir but the Hammer isn't far behind. Plus the hammer being magical I think gives it a trump card in a lot of cases.Also I think most people are ignoring the very real limitations the rings have. I know people like to tout one Lantern's feats for another but honestly each Lantern is different with different personalities which causes the ring to manifest it's powers slightly different for each one. People acting like they get the ring and will be able to do everything any lantern ever did is fool-hardy. Odds are no one here is pulling off every feat every lantern ever did even if they know they can. The ring is still limited by imagination and WILLPOWER. Some of you would be lucky to get a blast off before draining yourselves 😛
Also the hammer not only grants you versatility but an incredibly powerful body with great physical stats.
And as an energy shield, energy absorber the hammer has few equals in that department.
The same people voting for Mjolnir think they are going call forth the full powers of Thor, when in reality they will be Masterson Lite.
Originally posted by curryman
Newjak, if we're going off the limitation that we need to fuel the ring by pure willpower then it's pointless, because no one here would get anything done.Just like no one here would be worthy of Mjolnir 🙂
Everyone thinks you're wrong about them.
I'm at least practical enough to realize I'm not worthy. But I can't help but feel subjective disagreement with you about the ring.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I don't and you obviously don't, so the "everyone" part of your statement is incorrect.
Heh. Don't be pedantic. You know what I mean. It's like the ingrained feeling nearly everyone has that they're an above-average driver, when 50% of people have to be below average.
Originally posted by currymanI should have added I'm also assuming we can wield the weapons in question.
Newjak, if we're going off the limitation that we need to fuel the ring by pure willpower then it's pointless, because no one here would get anything done.Just like no one here would be morthy of Mjolnir 🙂
For instance I'm assuming we can lift the hammer,
and I'm assuming we got chosen to be a green lantern.
Otherwise the discussion is moot.
But if we are are determining overall power, the limitations of the ring should be addressed in that it is limited to the person wielding the ring. So most people who randomly pick up the ring won't be able to do half of what all GLs have done in their lifetime.
Even the most powerful unamped Green Lanterns are generally on par with Thor in power instead of over him and most times I would pick Thor in a fight over them because his powers are very suited to combating GLs.
And also there aren't too many things the ring can do versatility wise that the hammer won't let you do anyways. PLus it has the bonus of being magical which I think helps it in certain cases over the ring.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
And I seriously doubt anyone(on this forum at the very least) thinks like that. Unless you're an h1 with with his 60 mph punches.
I think you esteem the general membership a bit too highly. The number of people I've encountered on this board who think they could not only wield a GL ring, but wield it better than comic GLs, is staggering. Btw, I'm one of them.
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Mjolnir might be a different issue. People are more willing to admit that they're d*cks in one form or another, which doesn't translate to "worthy" very well. You might be right on that one.
Originally posted by DigiI think you're one of the people who might be able to get a blast off before falling down exhausted. That's a compliment btw because it means you would actually get chosen to wield it at some point. 😛
I think you esteem the general membership a bit too highly. The number of people I've encountered on this board who think they could not only wield a GL ring, but wield it better than comic GLs, is staggering. Btw, I'm one of them.😉
Mjolnir might be a different issue. People are more willing to admit that they're d*cks in one form or another, which doesn't translate to "worthy" very well. You might be right on that one.
Originally posted by Digi
I think you esteem the general membership a bit too highly. The number of people I've encountered on this board who think they could not only wield a GL ring, but wield it better than comic GLs, is staggering. Btw, I'm one of them.😉
Seriously though, I doubt the majority of this forum thinks as someone like h1 would.
Glad we agree on people being able to use the weapons, if nothing else 😄
Originally posted by Newjak
But if we are are determining overall power, the limitations of the ring should be addressed in that it is limited to the person wielding the ring. So most people who randomly pick up the ring won't be able to do half of what all GLs have done in their lifetime.Even the most powerful unamped Green Lanterns are generally on par with Thor in power instead of over him and most times I would pick Thor in a fight over them because his powers are very suited to combating GLs.
And also there aren't too many things the ring can do versatility wise that the hammer won't let you do anyways. PLus it has the bonus of being magical which I think helps it in certain cases over the ring.
I'll concede a definite power-limitation on the Power Ring's wielder, but that would also go both ways then. Masterson and Red Norvell have been massive disappointments in certain cases.
I think the ring has Mjolnir beat very, very, very hard in versatility outside of combat. It's easier to transport people, shield others, repair/build stuff, scan things, save people and so on. Mjolnir only edges out the destruction bit, which is only better when you're fighting, but even then the ability to have your ring do a quick-scan on your opponent is invaluable.
The best part about Mjolnir for me is the passive durability-strength boost, which is huge, that and the fact that Mjolnir is magical.
Originally posted by Newjak
I think you're one of the people who might be able to get a blast off before falling down exhausted. That's a compliment btw because it means you would actually get chosen to wield it at some point. 😛
You mean no better than Green Arrow?! If I can't out-blast Ollie with the ring, my life is a lie.
uhuh
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The winking smilie gave you away.Seriously though, I doubt the majority of this forum thinks as someone like h1 would.
Fair enough. I'm just saying I've literally seen at least a dozen people on my decade or so on KMC whose mentality was "...if I just had a GL ring, I'd show everyone..."
Originally posted by currymanI know somewhere someone once complied a list of all the things Thor's hammer and powers could do. It was quite extensive and up there with the best of what GLs could do.
Glad we agree on people being able to use the weapons, if nothing else 😄I'll concede a definite power-limitation on the Power Ring's wielder, but that would also go both ways then. Masterson and Red Norvell have been massive disappointments in certain cases.
I think the ring has Mjolnir beat very, very, very hard in versatility outside of combat. It's easier to transport people, shield others, repair/build stuff, scan things, save people and so on. Mjolnir only edges out the destruction bit, which is only better when you're fighting, but even then the ability to have your ring do a quick-scan on your opponent is invaluable.
The best part about Mjolnir for me is the passive durability-strength boost, which is huge, that and the fact that Mjolnir is magical.
Thor has crazy options.
Originally posted by DigiI like Green Arrow so watch your tongue Digi uhuh. At least you're better than most of the people here.
You mean no better than Green Arrow?! If I can't out-blast Ollie with the ring, my life is a lie.uhuh
Fair enough. I'm just saying I've literally seen at least a dozen people on my decade or so on KMC whose mentality was "...if I just had a GL ring, I'd show everyone..."
Originally posted by MindsetUnlike this guy, who I'm pretty certain the items would vaporize for being so terrible uhuh
Mjolnir would have to question whether it was worthy of me.
Originally posted by Newjak
I know somewhere someone once complied a list of all the things Thor's hammer and powers could do. It was quite extensive and up there with the best of what GLs could do.Thor has crazy options.
Once you've got energy manipulation/weather stuff by the way of magic, you can pretty much do anything I guess 😛
Doesn't help too much when the hammer's practical applications are terrible tho. Thor's always supporting falling buildings with his body, unless you wanna disarm yourself to have it encased in a whirlwind.
But Mjolnir's so god damn imprecise!
Originally posted by currymanI'm pretty sure Thor has used his powers in very precise ways before. He once transmutated Absorbing Man into Helium.
Once you've got energy manipulation/weather stuff by the way of magic, you can pretty much do anything I guess 😛Doesn't help too much when the hammer's practical applications are terrible tho. Thor's always supporting falling buildings with his body, unless you wanna disarm yourself to have it encased in a whirlwind.
But Mjolnir's so god damn imprecise!
He also shown a few times where he can just let Mjolnir fly and hit everything in the vicinity.
Plus turning into Thor gives you some other goodies like immortaility. He can look and peer into space time itself. Do random magical things out of nowhere like dispelling magic, bringing back the dead.
Originally posted by Newjak
I'm pretty sure Thor has used his powers in very precise ways before. He once transmutated Absorbing Man into Helium.He also shown a few times where he can just let Mjolnir fly and hit everything in the vicinity.
Plus turning into Thor gives you some other goodies like immortaility. He can look and peer into space time itself. Do random magical things out of nowhere like dispelling magic, bringing back the dead.
I'm well familiar with all of this, tho transmuting someone isn't particularly precise if you ask me.
I also really dislike the fact that you'll need to disarm yourself to do a lot of stuff.
Yes, the magic/god aspect has some really good bits.
