Originally posted by tkitna
I guess i'm having an issue with how nothing more then a brick (although a powerful brick) is going to beat a character that has the versatility of the Void.
Whether intentional and deliberate refusal to acknowledge the character's history - of consistently answering such a question - smashing everything and anything from planets to eternals and even elders. From Power Cosmic amped replicas to Superman replicas and more ... - or just simply a result of reading too many of the Thor/Superman biased assessments...
Hulk at Green Scar levels is more than enough to handle Voidtry. And nothing has ever been able to deny the "Hulk Smash" effect.
Originally posted by tkitna
Also, remember that the Sentry and the Void are one and the same thus they each share the same powers. I apologize but the Wendigo, Bi-Beast examples dont impress me. Hell, whiny Bob was throwing down with Genis to the point that the output was destroying worlds in the microverse and they were holding back at the time.If they both can return from the dead and reform from nothing, then I suppose this is a stalemate and the thread should be closed.
And moreover, it was the energies from this brief "WBH" moment, that went on to empower Rulk and a phallanx of herald level beings, amping everyone from Spiderman to Thor in the process.
As for Bi-Beast and Wendigo, they were, at the time and then on through to HOTM, over 1000 times as powerful as they had ever been.
That right there puts them far and away above the toddlers that Voidtry drizzled on in Siege.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Not the Void influenced version who as far as I'm aware didn't show much of that same power during SIEGE.
Originally posted by currymanHe was high-trans to low-Skyfather, at the very least. Imo.
Where do people put Dark-Avengers MM, powerwise?HH, trans, skyfather? Even higher? Because unless he's around skyfather domain, there's absolutely no way Sentry can just "stomp" Worldbreaker.
Originally posted by janus77Spider-man also fought SpOck "physically", it was still a mental struggle. Sentry always fights Void physically but he's basically fighting himself, the moment he becomes confident Void becomes helpless against him. Its a physical manifistation of a mental struggle. He's one and the same person with two different personas taking over. That time the Sentry persona was dominant. Heck Sentry managed to "imprison" Void in a mirror. Its not because the Void isn't powerful enough to break free from a mirror, its just Sentry persona was dominant. Same reason why Void was "killed" when Sentry threw him into the sun yet it didnt effect either of them later. All about Bob's mental state and confidence. That much was made clear in his mini.
except the instances when Sentry throws Void into the sun or when they literally fight it out?Seems perfectly physical enough to me. Sentry > Void, always. Just that Void is not conflicted and confused, unlike Bob.
Originally posted by SamZED
Spider-man also fought SpOck "physically", it was still a mental struggle. Sentry always fights Void physically but he's basically fighting himself, the moment he becomes confident Void becomes helpless against him. Its a physical manifistation of a mental struggle. He's one and the same person with two different personas taking over. That time the Sentry persona was dominant. Heck Sentry managed to "imprison" Void in a mirror. Its not because the Void isn't powerful enough to break free from a mirror, its just Sentry persona was dominant. Same reason why Void was "killed" when Sentry threw him into the sun yet it didnt effect either of them later. All about Bob's mental state and confidence. That much was made clear in his mini.
Void was clearly physical when he fought Sentry, when he attempted to shoot people, when he attacked Savage Hulk, Sentry fought him those times just as he fought him on his own.
There's nothing to substantiate the idea that all those times when Sentry beat Void (including throwing him into the sun), he was actually doing it all in his mind.
Originally posted by janus77Not in his mind but a physical manifestation of a mental struggle. Sentry throwing Void into the sun was symbolic, it meant that Sentry persona is dominating. Why do you think Void didn't come back flying into the fight but waited months to resurface? Sun was too hot for him? Its simple, that time Sentry decided that he doesn't need him and took over. But Void would always come back at the moment of Bob's weakness.
Spiderman never fought alongside someone else, when fighting SpOck.Void was clearly physical when he fought Sentry, when he attempted to shoot people, when he attacked Savage Hulk, Sentry fought him those times just as he fought him on his own.
There's nothing to substantiate the idea that all those times when Sentry beat Void (including throwing him into the sun), he was actually doing it all in his mind.
Originally posted by The SorrowAs this separate depiction of the same event shows, it was definitely atomic dispersion:
Looks like he just tore him to shreds there with those tentacles things.
Originally posted by currymanProof that Loki's mindset affects his durability?
Let's not forget the circumstances surrounding that, Loki definitely wanted to die.
Lord, people keep telling me writer's interviews don't matter.
So I assume the same rules and regulations extend to everybody.
Originally posted by Galan007
Proof that Loki's mindset affects his durability?
Just saying that the fight didn't go like that simply because Loki was so horribly overpowered and outmatched.
