Dos Doomsday vs Thor's allies

DD is fast enough to blitz and entire team (including Superman) before they can flinch. How in the hell do you hit an entire team at one phucking time without being crazy fast?

Dos Doomsday

Originally posted by abhilegend
Telepathy and phasing don't rely on durability.

So Thor is the most durable being she transmuted? Then she can't transmute doomsday as he is much more durable than Thor. Meh, warping an inanimate object isn't that great.

😂 So Enchantress can't do anything to Doomsday despite him having no magical transmutation resistance feats? Why don't you just automatically give any Superman related character a win and stop pretending?

Lol, when the only thing that could hurt the World Tree is the Odinsword as it can cut through time/space itself under Fraction and the process was destroying creation, then it most definitely is very impressive.

Edit: Since the other thread was closed by some hooligans while I was sleeping, I wanted to ask you about this claim:

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've seen it mentioned that Odinpower was transferred from Bor to Odin as it was transferred from Buri to Bor and when Odin died, it transferred to Thor. Its not Odin's inherent power, never was.

Where was the above mentioned?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂 So Enchantress can't do anything to Doomsday despite him having no magical transmutation resistance feats? Why don't you just automatically give any Superman related character a win and stop pretending?

Edit: Since the other thread was closed by some hooligans while I was sleeping, I wanted to ask you about this claim:

Where was the above mentioned?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a no limit fallacy on your part. Enchantress isn't going to transmute somebody like Doomsday when he has been able to adapt to such haxx abilities like GL energy and chronal energy. I asked you about who is the most durable being she has transmuted and you turned up with nonsense like TP and phasing as usual.

Hurting=/=warping. When will you be able to distinguish between such simple terms?

Say please first.

Enchantress has used her powers on beings as durable as Thor. That gives us an idea of how powerful and effective her magic can be so the only one using a no limit fallacy here is you. Now, what magical transmutation resistance feats does Doomsday have? I also have no idea why you're bringing up Hunter Prey in a DOS thread.

She was hurting the World Tree through her transmutation, that's why the Universe was about to be destroyed. 😐

"Wounded."

Okay, please.

Volstagg solos.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Enchantress has used her powers on beings as durable as Thor.

Okay, please.

This scenario reminds me of the animated Hulk vs. Thor DVD, only DOS Doomsday is much faster than Hulk.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Less durable than Doomsday. Can I see scans of her transmuting thor though? What? She transmuted a being less durable than Doomsday and I'm using no limit fallacy? Doomsday adapted to GL energy before DOS in doomsday annual.

And where was this "transmutation" was mentioned in that scan? Also give the issue number please, why is Thor in his classic costume?

I would try to find it. I read it a long time ago.

Yes you are. Enchantress has worked her magic on Thor at least, yet you haven't presented any feats for Doomsday. It'd be one thing if it was a matter manipulating cannon or something but this is also powerful magic.

Actually, she wasn't just carving Skurge out of the World Tree, but she was also splitting it in two in the process:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg

The feat is even more impressive. Thor was in a different costume because reality was being warped with every wave. The above scans also have her transmuting Thor and it takes place in Thor's God Sized Special.

Please do. I've read probably every Thor issue and I have never heard of this. I can't help but think you're lying.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes you are. Enchantress has worked her magic on Thor at least, yet you haven't presented any feats for Doomsday.

Please do. I've read probably every Thor issue and I have never heard of this. I can't help but think you're lying.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who is less durable than doomsday. Meh, magical transmutation isn't any different than normal transmutation unless you are explicitly weak to magic like Superman.

And where is she transmuting it explicitly?

So enchantress was splitting the tree in half. Where is the transmuting? Also wasn't she drawing the power from tree and when Loki separated her from the tree, she was easily beaten by Thor?

Will do. Yeah, everybody else other than you is lying. That's why Odinforce was transferred automatically to thor when Odin died, right?

Arguable but besides the point, Enchantress has some transmutation feats, you however have yet to present any feats of resistance whatsoever. I'd disagree but whatever.

What do you think she was doing when she was carving Skurge's form out of the tree? If it's not transmutation, it's still some a form of transformation far beyond anything Doomsday has encountered.

Thor never fought Enchantress in that issue, he tackled her and they talked after she asked him to kill her.

Just tell me where you read it, give me an issue number or some sort of reference. Otherwise you just made it up as I can't even recall anything of the sort. The relationship with Bor/Odin is not automatically the same as Odin/Thor. Not to mention Bor originally didn't even die and when Thor did kill him, no power was transferred to the Odinson. Hell, even if we assume it worked that way on absolutely no evidence, the power would be transferred to the Serpent and not Odin.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Arguable but besides the point, Enchantress has some transmutation feats, you however have yet to present any feats of resistance whatsoever. I'd disagree but whatever.

What do you think she was doing when she was carving Skurge's form out of the tree? If it's not transmutation, it's still some a form of transformation far beyond anything Doomsday has encountered.

Thor never fought Enchantress in that issue, he tackled her and they talked after she asked him to kill her.

Just tell me where you read it, give me an issue number or some sort of reference. Otherwise you just made it up as I can't even recall anything of the sort. The relationship with Bor/Odin is not automatically the same as Odin/Thor. Not to mention Bor originally didn't even die and when Thor did kill him, no power was transferred to the Odinson. Hell, even if we assume it worked that way on absolutely no evidence, the power would be transferred to the Serpent and not Odin.

She has some but its not enough in most probable scenario. If she is in the same scenario as in DOS, doomsday rips her apart before she can do anything.

She was splitting the world tree in half and thus the body of Skurge was appearing from it. How's that transmuting the world tree? Creating a new body for skurge is meh.

Was she drawing the power from the tree or not? Answer that.

Would do it. So you're saying that Odin gained Odinpower from birth by himself?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes you are. Enchantress has worked her magic on Thor at least, yet you haven't presented any feats for Doomsday. It'd be one thing if it was a matter manipulating cannon or something but this is also powerful magic.

Actually, she wasn't just carving Skurge out of the World Tree, but she was also splitting it in two in the process:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/WorldTree5.jpg

The feat is even more impressive. Thor was in a different costume because reality was being warped with every wave. The above scans also have her transmuting Thor and it takes place in Thor's God Sized Special.

Please do. I've read probably every Thor issue and I have never heard of this. I can't help but think you're lying.

tbh i don't see how this feats proves she can transmute a very durable being. What feats does the World tree have?

Also it took her a shit load of time to do anything. DD could hit her before she flinches.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Doomsday being more durable than Thor is arguable? Hahaha.

She has some but its not enough in most probable scenario. If she is in the same scenario as in DOS, doomsday rips her apart before she can do anything.

She was splitting the world tree in half and thus the body of Skurge was appearing from it. How's that transmuting the world tree? Creating a new body for skurge is meh.

Was she drawing the power from the tree or not? Answer that.

Would do it. So you're saying that Odin gained Odinpower from birth by himself?

We aren't talking about what you think might happen in a comic. You denied Enchantress' ability to transform Doomsday with her magic. I can accept you saying that it's what you feel could happen even though you have no evidence but you're trying to argue this like it's facts.

You've gotten it backwards. Her magic was warping/carving him into existence, and the process was splitting the tree in half :

A crazy powerful level of magic.

No, she wasn't.

So are you going to post a reference or not? The classic origin revealed was that the Odin Force was created when his two older brothers sent part of their power into him. However, I don't believe that applies to the latest history so I'd yes, Odin was born powerful and over the years acquired different abilities added to his own might.

Originally posted by h1a8
tbh i don't see how this feats proves she can transmute a very durable being. What feats does the World tree have?

Also it took her a shit load of time to do anything. DD could hit her before she flinches.

Lol? She waved her hand and turned Thor/Balder into trees. What, Doomsday is going to ignore all the other combatants and go straight for Amora? Does he get some sort of prep where he's briefed on their capabilities and devises an attack plan?

The World Tree? It's the Cosmic Axis of the Universe and more recently, the Metaverse. More powerful then anything else, seed of all creation and source of all power or whatever etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We aren't talking about what you think might happen in a comic. You denied Enchantress' ability to transform Doomsday with her magic. I can accept you saying that it's what you feel could happen even though you have no evidence but you're trying to argue this like it's facts.

You've gotten it backwards. Her magic was warping/carving him into existence, and the process was splitting the tree in half :

A crazy powerful level of magic.

No, she wasn't.

So are you going to post a reference or not? The classic origin revealed was that the Odin Force was created when his two older brothers sent part of their power into him. However, I don't believe that applies to the latest history so I'd yes, Odin was born powerful and over the years acquired different abilities added to his own might.

Nope. She was splitting the world tree and that caused Skurge to appear. I don't see any transmuting of world tree there.

Splitting world tree is a major magical feat. Its not a transmutation feat.

I remember otherwise. Would read the issue again to be sure.

I would do that once I go home and download the issue. I'm at office right now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
We aren't? I didn't deny anything. i said transmuting thor who is less durable than Doomsady while she might've drawing power from world tree isn't an indication of her transmuting Doomsday.

Nope. She was splitting the world tree and that caused Skurge to appear. I don't see any transmuting of world tree there.

Splitting world tree is a major magical feat. Its not a transmutation feat.

I remember otherwise. Would read the issue again to be sure.

I would do that once I go home and download the issue. I'm at office right now.

She wasn't drawing any power from the World Tree, where are you getting that from? If Enchantress turning Black Knight into stone couldn't be undone by Classic Strange's magic, what kind of feats do you have to support Doomsday resisting her?

I don't understand, are you trolling or being serious?

"The more her magic carves her true love out of the trunk of Yggdrassil.."

Go ahead but this is literally all there is to their fight just like I said:

Good luck, I'll await scans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She wasn't drawing any power from the World Tree, where are you getting that from? If Enchantress turning Black Knight into stone couldn't be undone by Classic Strange's magic, what kind of feats do you have to support Doomsday resisting her?

I don't understand, are you trolling or being serious?

"The more her magic carves her true love out of the trunk of Yggdrassil.."

Go ahead but this is literally all there is to their fight just like I said:

Good luck, I'll await scans.

Why do you blame everybody as trolling when they disagree with you? Are you really that arrogant.

And that's a transmutation feat? How? She was splitting world tree in half and that was resulting in Skurge's body to reappear. It wasn't fully formed when Thor destroyed it again.

Would do it. Not that it matters in that feat in Avengers Prime.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I recall she was. That was more due to Ebony Blade, wasn't it?

Why do you blame everybody as trolling when they disagree with you? Are you really that arrogant.

And that's a transmutation feat? How? She was splitting world tree in half and that was resulting in Skurge's body to reappear. It wasn't fully formed when Thor destroyed it again.

Would do it. Not that it matters in that feat in Avengers Prime.

I'll look through the issue later but I don't remember this, post a scan. What does the Ebony Blade have to do with it?

Yes, yes it is (Transformation to be more specific). Because when the dialogue clearly explains one thing and you say another thing, usually it's someone joking or trolling. You're implying all she did was cut it down the middle.

It doesn't because the feat is legit.

Anyways, Doomsday gets turned into a tree by Amora while he's trying to crush the Asgardian warriors on the front lines.