Originally posted by Bardock42
There is no egalitarian movement that desires the liberation of women (and men) to speak off (I have to qualify it because there are egalitarian movements with other goals). It's a bullshit phrase. Another bullshit term that just means "stop talking about the oppression of women".
I would be more correct in saying what you posted here is bullshit. The only people I know that label themselves as "egalitarian" are actually after equality. I cannot say the same of many feminists. More on this, later.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Feminism has real people behind it. It has actual goals. It has years of thought and scholarship put into it. It has actually achieved things. Neither Men's Right's Activism or any "Egalitarian" movement with supposed similar goals has any of these things.
It seems you do not know much about egalitarianism. Egalitarianism precedes the feminist movement, significantly. It has "real scholarship", as well. Some movements have real goals, as well. It actually achieved things; things that are far superior to anything that any feminist movement aspired to be. But maybe you think women have it worse than slaves?
And you need to put down "egalitarian movements", not "movement".
Originally posted by Bardock42
The thing is most people who say "we should all just be Egalitarians" do not believe in equality,
This is false. It is the opposite. You sound like you've had a bad experience with someone that did not know what egalitarianism actually is.
Originally posted by Bardock42
...they do not understand how oppression works and they only say it cause they don't want to hear any more hard truths about their privileges.
Yeah, you're talking about an extremely narrow group that inappropriately use the label "egalitarian". That would be like me thinking that all feminists are fat militant lesbians that want the complete and total oppression of men.
Here is how it breaks down (to include all of each type of movement):