Why do people hate Americans?

Started by Master Han13 pages

Pr, if you know of a men's rights advocacy site that:

1. Does not have a cliched attack on RAINN / all rape advocacy groups
2. Does not attack evilllll feminists in literally every other webpage
3. Does not disturbingly promote 18th century societal customs
4. Is not also an extremist right wing refuge

please post the link (srs request).

Originally posted by Bardock42
There is no egalitarian movement that desires the liberation of women (and men) to speak off (I have to qualify it because there are egalitarian movements with other goals). It's a bullshit phrase. Another bullshit term that just means "stop talking about the oppression of women".

I would be more correct in saying what you posted here is bullshit. The only people I know that label themselves as "egalitarian" are actually after equality. I cannot say the same of many feminists. More on this, later.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Feminism has real people behind it. It has actual goals. It has years of thought and scholarship put into it. It has actually achieved things. Neither Men's Right's Activism or any "Egalitarian" movement with supposed similar goals has any of these things.

It seems you do not know much about egalitarianism. Egalitarianism precedes the feminist movement, significantly. It has "real scholarship", as well. Some movements have real goals, as well. It actually achieved things; things that are far superior to anything that any feminist movement aspired to be. But maybe you think women have it worse than slaves?

And you need to put down "egalitarian movements", not "movement".

Originally posted by Bardock42
The thing is most people who say "we should all just be Egalitarians" do not believe in equality,

This is false. It is the opposite. You sound like you've had a bad experience with someone that did not know what egalitarianism actually is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
...they do not understand how oppression works and they only say it cause they don't want to hear any more hard truths about their privileges.

Yeah, you're talking about an extremely narrow group that inappropriately use the label "egalitarian". That would be like me thinking that all feminists are fat militant lesbians that want the complete and total oppression of men.

Here is how it breaks down (to include all of each type of movement):

Of course what you said has literally nothing to do with reality in any way.

No you.

dadudemon, that you belong to a group focusing on a specific aspect of human rights does not suggest that you don't care about the whole set of human rights in general. I assume that many abolitionists were egalitarians, yet they still stuck by a label defining specifically their primary objective. Similarly, a person fighting against human trafficking does not feel apathy towards gang violence.

I'm sure +/- 10% is not going to turn out to be statistically relevant (though maybe significant), but it would be nice to see which way all of those neutral countries leaned... though I imagine it would change from day to day depending on the headlines

What does it mean that -50% of the population has a positive view of us?

[edit]: Nevermind, that's not a way of representing data I've ever seen before. Clever.

So 50% could mean that 75 percent have a positive and 25 a negative, for example?

At any rate, I do think this chart (limited as it is) supports the idea that the US is somewhat disliked around the world (although I guess there may be a lot of neutral people)

This is the article it came from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/12/40-maps-that-explain-the-world/

Damn, I wanted to see the statistics for countries that like the U.S. to see if 100% of the U.S. population liked the U.S.

Originally posted by Astner
Damn, I wanted to see the statistics for countries that like the U.S. to see if 100% of the U.S. population liked the U.S.

I believe I saw a poll once that suggested the number is 70-80% in America, which put America's approval rating in America lower than in Kenya.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
This is the article it came from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/08/12/40-maps-that-explain-the-world/

I'm floored that Germans are so pro-EU.

I'm very pro-EU

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm very pro-EU

The way we hear it in the US, Germany loathes the demands that poorer EU nations have been placing on it during the recession.

I'm not sure when the data was taken, I could imagine that feelings towards the EU are more negative now. However I do think we all know the EU has also done good things for us, and that Europe has experienced a level of unprecedented peace since the second world war. Generally the negative sentiment I hear is not towards the EU, but rather towards countries of the EU whose economies are failing (Greece in particular). Whether that is fair or not I can't really say, I personally think both countries could be a bit more understanding of the other's position, but it's not usually a hatred for the EU (unlike ****ing Britain, which should shut up already, get the Euro, and take it's place as the third most important European country.

"If you are sitting on top of the world, remember it turns over every 24 hours."

- Anonymous

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm floored that Germans are so pro-EU.

I'm surprised that Turkey is several bars higher than Iran in terms of hospitality. Probably just a stereotype, but Persians are supposed to be famous for their hospitality, while Turks consistently report disliking virtually every other country in the world.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
"If you are sitting on top of the world, remember it turns over every 24 hours."

- Anonymous

Wait...but the "top" of the world would be around the north pole...and that doesn't really turn over... 😕

😱

Also, even if you would define some spot on the equator as the "top" you'd be on top again after 24 hours. A better, while still not accurate, saying would be:

""If you are sitting on top of the world, remember it turns over every 12 hours."

- Anonymous"

- Bardock42