Originally posted by Existere
I just want those who are actively living the homophobic lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominably boring practice through gay sex.
For saying what God says about homosexuality?
God hates homosexuality not the homosexual. If you are a homosexual just know that God does not hate you and neither do I.
But to maintain righteousness, and uphold His Law (i.e. His Word), God must judge the homosexual based on his/her works (good or bad) because He is holy and just.
That's what a true Judge does.
But God extends His mercy to the homosexual. He tells the homosexual to come out of that lifestyle, and He will help him/her.
2 Corinthians 6:17
Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”
God extends His grace and mercy to the homosexual because He truly loves him/her. Mercy is like a gift: it can only be received. But what many homosexuals do is stare the gift horse in the mouth. Instead of accepting God's mercy they try to persuade God to accept their sinful lifestyle, or go along with it.
God will never go along with sin. Unlike our Federal judges God does not compromise so that a person can sin. Moreover, God cannot be bought or bribed.
A real parent doesn't let their three-year old play in the street because that's what they want to do, or put metal objects in light switches because that's what they want to do, or smoke crack because that's what they want to do, or drink a fifth of whiskey because that's what they want to do, or let their thirteen-year-old daughters work in a strip club because that's what they want to do, or let a pimp prostitute them because that's what they want to do, or have sex with animals because that's what they want to do, or commit crimes because that's what they want to do.
A real parent trains a child up in the way that they should go, so that when they are old they will not depart from it. A real parent doesn't care how angry his/her child gets he/she will not permit them to disrespect their teachers, bully other students, curse them out, behave unruly, eat whatever they want (no matter how unhealthy), or just act like he/she does not exist. A real parent won't let their child get away with disobedience and just do their own thing.
Not a real parent. Maybe a weak, compromising parent, but not a real parent.
Well, God is no different except His standard is Jesus Christ. His standard is not our standard. God does not think the way that we think. His thoughts are not our thoughts, nor are His ways our ways. Everything about God is superior and higher in terms of righteousness, holiness, and purity. We just don't realize how holy, clean (morally), and pure God is.
Isaiah 55:8-10
8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3quMMp24U
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583683&pagenumber=6#post14433837
Originally posted by Lestov16
Do you believe in Santa Claus, JIA?
No. Do you?
Originally posted by Existere
I just want those who are actively living the homophobic lifestyle to know that there is liberty from that abominably boring practice through gay sex.
For saying what God says about homosexuality?
God hates homosexuality not the homosexual. If you are a homosexual just know that God does not hate you and neither do I.
But to maintain righteousness, and uphold His Law (i.e. His Word), God must judge the homosexual based on his/her works (good or bad) because He is holy and just.
That's what a true Judge does.
But God extends His mercy to the homosexual. He tells the homosexual to come out of that lifestyle, and He will help him/her.
2 Corinthians 6:17
Therefore “Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you. I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.””
God extends His grace and mercy to the homosexual because He truly loves him/her. Mercy is like a gift: it can only be received. But what many homosexuals do is stare the gift horse in the mouth. Instead of accepting God's mercy they try to persuade God to accept their sinful lifestyle, or go along with it.
God will never go along with sin. Unlike our Federal judges God does not compromise so that a person can sin. Moreover, God cannot be bought or bribed.
A real parent doesn't let their three-year old play in the street because that's what they want to do, or put metal objects in electrical sockets because that's what they want to do, or smoke crack because that's what they want to do, or drink a fifth of whiskey because that's what they want to do, or let their thirteen-year-old daughters work in a strip club because that's what they want to do, or let a pimp prostitute them because that's what they want to do, or have sex with animals because that's what they want to do, or commit crimes because that's what they want to do.
A real parent trains a child up in the way that they should go, so that when they are old they will not depart from it. A real parent doesn't care how angry his/her child gets he/she will not permit them to disrespect their teachers, bully other students, curse them out, behave unruly, eat whatever they want (no matter how unhealthy), or just act like he/she does not exist. A real parent won't let their child get away with disobedience and just do their own thing.
Not a real parent. Maybe a weak, compromising parent, but not a real parent.
Well, God is no different except His standard is Jesus Christ. His standard is not our standard. God does not think the way that we think. His thoughts are not our thoughts, nor are His ways our ways. Everything about God is superior and higher in terms of righteousness, holiness, and purity. We just don't realize how holy, clean (morally), and pure God is.
Isaiah 55:8-10
8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3quMMp24U
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583683&pagenumber=6#post14433837
Originally posted by dadudemonIt seemed like the implication, but I didn't think it would be the only one, or even one that made sense given the context, which is why I asked.
Okay, cool. So we'll get into that previous argument.So you think that only the LGBT would be the only element to the label of "community" in my use?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You probably don't believe in the same God. You may think that there's only one God, but it's unlikely that you and JIA have the same concept of God, in fact I'd wager your conceptions of God are so different that you might as well give your respective Gods different names.
I was using the vaguest meaning, but you're still right, I suppose.
Why would u care wat other people do? Its not like their doing it in ur face. Gay people just want the same rights st8 people have. Alot of st8 couples now a days get devorced while gay couples who want to be married in most parts of the world cant. Most religous groups just want to tell people wat to do because they cant stand people not living the way they do, which is in a box. Society is changing the laws are made to meet the needs of the public, gay isnt just one case anymore it can happen to anyone.
Originally posted by rudester
Why would u care wat other people do? Its not like their doing it in ur face. Gay people just want the same rights st8 people have. Alot of st8 couples now a days get devorced while gay couples who want to be married in most parts of the world cant. Most religous groups just want to tell people wat to do because they cant stand people not living the way they do, which is in a box. Society is changing the laws are made to meet the needs of the public, gay isnt just one case anymore it can happen to anyone.
If your house is on fire, you and your wife and kids were sleeping, and I drove by and I saw it burning and I didn't wake you up because I knew you'd be uptight, what would you think of me?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583683&pagenumber=7#post14434040
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583890&pagenumber=2#post14434377
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=421020&pagenumber=9#post14432098
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14431186#post14431186
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]If your house is on fire, you and your wife and kids were sleeping, and I drove by and I saw it burning and I didn't wake you up because I knew you'd be uptight, what would you think of me?
Seriously that is the most pointless & pathetic analogy I've ever read, especially in regards to an argument about gays having equal rights.
So you wouldn't help save a gay couple if their house was on fire but you'd warn their straight neighbours?
I honestly can't see any logic in your response JIA.
Originally posted by rudester
Why would u care wat other people do? Its not like their doing it in ur face. Gay people just want the same rights st8 people have. Alot of st8 couples now a days get devorced while gay couples who want to be married in most parts of the world cant. Most religous groups just want to tell people wat to do because they cant stand people not living the way they do, which is in a box. Society is changing the laws are made to meet the needs of the public, gay isnt just one case anymore it can happen to anyone.
If your house is on fire, you and your wife and kids were sleeping, and I drove by and I saw it burning and I didn't wake you up because I knew you'd be uptight, what would you think of me?
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Seriously that is the most pointless & pathetic analogy I've ever read, especially in regards to an argument about gays having equal rights.So you wouldn't help save a gay couple if their house was on fire but you'd warn their straight neighbours?
I honestly can't see any logic in your response JIA.
You missed the point.
I'm warning homosexuals that their house is burning (i.e. they are headed straight to Hell when they die).
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583683&pagenumber=7#post14434040
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583890&pagenumber=2#post14434377
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=421020&pagenumber=9#post14432098
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=14431186#post14431186
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583890&pagenumber=2#post14434493
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You missed the point.I'm warning homosexuals that their house is burning (i.e. they are headed straight to Hell when they die).
Ha ha ha YES I MISSED YOUR POINT.
Especially when you state, you, your wife & kids are asleep but in actual fact you're referring to homosexuals... 🙄 😆
So wat ur saying is tat i should adopt because I can and marry a my husband and buy tat nice house in the corner? It wouldnt matter if I were gay we are all sinners in the eyes of god..my question is why is it up to religous types such as urself to push ur beliefs onto people who obviously are not asking for it? Im pretty sure if my house was on fire the neighbours or any strangers would help but u being christian would not, wat values is tat for a christian?
Originally posted by Existere
It seemed like the implication, but I didn't think it would be the only one, or even one that made sense given the context, which is why I asked.
It doesn't seem fair to only include "LGBT" in that label because there are more than just the LGBT community that would have a stake in such a position.
To be clear, do you know what position I am talking about or should I explain?
Originally posted by -Pr-
It actually disturbs me a little that you and I believe in the same god.
👆
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If your house is on fire, you and your wife and kids were sleeping, and I drove by and I saw it burning and I didn't wake you up because I knew you'd be uptight, what would you think of me?
but its really something more like "if i drove by your house and you/your family was sleeping, but i noticed that you didnt have solar panels, a compost bin, and were clearly not recycling...how would you feel if i didn't bang on your door at 3 in the morning to let you know that i disapprove of your way of living."
Originally posted by dadudemonIf it's going to make an actual discussion possible, please explain the position exactly as you understand it so we can ensure we're both on the same page.
Not so fast.This question needs to be addressed, first, before we can go anywhere else:
"To be clear, do you know what position I am talking about or should I explain?"