Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Mace's Vaapad and Shatterpoint do grant him a nice advantage, though. I think it could go either way.
It's definitely possible for Mace to win with his power and talents. I just see it as more likely the Brothers taking it. They have both been shown to be quite beastly even individually.
I wonder if together the Brothers would overpower Mace in the Force.
There is nothing MORE likely about the brothers taking it at all. These are the facts... Kenobi beat the brothers... This wasn't even end of ROTS master kenobi either, and he still beat them. The emperor beat them with utter ease.. even laughing while doing so. This is the same emperor that got beat by mace and can't amp off the brother like Mace can... yet you go... I think it's more likely the brother win? WTF.. Get your head out of their asses DP. They can maybe get 1 or 2 victories against Mace.. but that is about it. lesser people than Mace have beaten them.
the difference between the analogy you tried to use was that the emperor was fighting somebody else and trying to kill them. So it stands to reason he might not sense Vader was ging to kill him. He was distracted and had his focus elsewhere. Maul WASN'T distracted and was looking RIGHT AT KENOBI. So agian.. WHICH IS IT... Shitty reflexes or terrible precog or both?
you mean other than it being VASTLY different than a life and death situation? You mean besides it being between two friends which even further lessens its value. I mean if it was at least between two enemies the competitive juices would kick in a little more and there be some hostility. It's like a one v one in basketball against a friend or enemy. Sure the one against your friend could be competitive but not as much as against an enemy. And lastly, you mean besides the fact that there is Zero indication that Mace had mastered Vaapad and shatterpoint to the point he did in ROTS. We know these sparring sessions were PRE clone wars... Mace obviously got better.. and I believe Dooku worse with age. Mace was in his prime... So just another reason those sparring sessions mean jack squat to ROTS Mace. Further, it never even says Mace didn't also beat him, which he likely did as well, only that dooku beat him in sparring... Yes.. SPARRING. That is about the worst kinda proof you could post
you're well aware that a life and death situation is quite different right? It's much different feeling when you can be killed... even if you're only trying to disarm. Much different and can cause more variables. You also didn't address (whcih I know why) that this was a pre prime ROTS Mace and there is ZERO indication he had mastered Vaapad or Shatterpoint at that point. To say nothing o fthe fact that he wouldn't even be able to use vaapad agianst a Jedi.. which is vastly different than if he fought Dooku as a DS. Plus you forgot to mention that Mace is also likely to have beaten Dooku as well in sparring session but who really gives a shit.. it's SPARRING.
Wrong. They fight to disarm by still hitting them with their lightsabers. Many of the 'disarming' techniques the Jedi Path mention do so literally.
Marks of Contact:
Shiim: Light wounds delivered with the edge of the blade.
Shiak: Piercing an opponent with the blade.
Sun djem: Destroy the weapon.
Cho mai: Sever the hand.
Cho sun: Sever the arm.
Cho mak: Sever a limb.
Mou kei: Sever multiple limbs.
Sai cha: Decapitate.
Sai tok: Cut in half.
Those are the ways Jedi are taught to fight. Notice that only one doesn't wound the opponent. The only thing it says is that Jedi should try not to kill. They fight to wound, disable or cripple, killing only when necessary.