Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
What does this have to do with the topic?.
Simple,really Yoda admitted to his failure.His Jedi were n't properly
trained to fight these new Sith.Mace just so happened to not only create
Vaapad for his wekness but to fight Sith/ dark siders.
Long story short Mace was the better choice to defeat Palpatine
while Obi Wan was the better choice to fight Poor misguided Annie.
just like again Obi Wan being the better choice to fight the bros.
which he defeated.and if Mace was in the picture he would do the same
there woould't be no Sidious vs the bros. because Mace would have killed them.
Originally posted by Master Han
Dooku was able to separate Anakin and Obi Wan, and eliminate the latter with the Force. He then ends up losing because of Anakin's mood swings. Mace Windu by this point is more powerful than Dooku, especially factoring in vaapad.Why would this fight be any tougher for Windu? I think we would agree that Anakin/Obi Wan > Maul bros by RotS, right?
Originally posted by Master Han
RotS Obi Wan and Anakin together couldn't defeat Dooku until the latter went balls out.
Correction:
Peak Skywalker and Peak Kenobi are > Maul and Opress,
(but then Peak Skywalker was > Dooku on his own, so I'm not sure what that proves..)
However Opress and Maul have undoubtedly and consistently displayed greater Force TK than Kenobi/Skywalker, so neither of them will be so easily Force tossed aside like Kenobi was. They are also both physically stronger than Kenobi/Skywalker, so neither of them will be slam kicked half way across the room like Skywalker was.
Bottom line, unless your name is Sidious or Yoda, the two Zabrack Brothers will not be so easily separated. In fact Maul even on his own is powerful and skilled enough to put up a fight.
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I doubt the Brothers could win against Anakin and Kenobi.
Oh I agree. In an all out scenario:
Skywalker > Maul and
Kenobi >/= Opress.
All I'm saying is Dooku would have an impossible task separating the Brothers the way he did Kenobi/Skywalker given their superior Force TK and Physical Strength.
And let's not forget Dooku wasn't exactly having a field day against Opress and Ventress.
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Nah, Anakin is a more powerful telekinetic and physically stronger than the brothers.
You think Anakin's physically stronger than Opress? I really don't see Dooku slam kicking Opress half way across that large room like Dooku did to Skywalker.
Also I doubt Skywalker is a superior telekinetic to Maul on an average/consistent basis.
Of course if he's "In the Zone" it's a whole different story on both fronts.
Originally posted by Col. ValerianUnless... Well, we do have to consider that Opress cannot block lightning. Dooku would most likely take advantage of this.
True, but he did take full advantage of that weakness against Ventress and Opress (an inferior duo) and was still struggling.
It also lead to Opress getting into a rage enhanced state, so probably actually doubled his threat level.